Why did Deutz kill the 8000 series?

Deutz did not want AC tractors - they already had their own.  The only thing Deutz wanted were the combines and the dealer network. 

Dseries4 is right, all they wanted was combines and dealers. Kind of like Biden didn't want anything good that Trump did. Results were the same.

Deutz bought the Allis Chalmers farm business- Allis had some of the best in the business with the 8000 series- Deutz wanted to keep that going , but they did not buy the tractor plant, so their plan was to move all 8000 tooling etc, to Germany build them and send them back over here,, these were crazy times and thoughts then they decided to axe the whole idea as it was too expensive, if you go thru AC and Deutz Allis they promoted the 8000 series till 1986,,  

Never Green ,they did ship their own tractors here .

Stories I’ve heard tend to align with what Kcgrain said. Deutz didn’t buy the tractor line and Allis was destroying tooling and blueprints. Seems they thought if they couldn’t keep the tractor line, no one could have it. There are old newspaper articles documenting exactly what was sold to Deutz but I don’t have them accessible right now.

AC7060IL wrote: So are any of the Allis-Chalmers tractors currently residing within any legal intellectual ownership by a principle entity (patents, acknowledgments, etc)? Reason I asked this question? Is there any legal ramifications against someone who might transfer a tractor’s actual measurements into a new casting mold & begin reproducing any/all parts?

dr p wrote: I don't quite remember the details but my kid brother is an engineer for case IH new holland. For one of their tractor lines 20 years ago they bought all the tool and die works for an Allis d-17. Used that for the chassis and dropped their own engines, hydraulic and electric into it. Made the whole thing in turkey. Was a financial success . Goodness knows what that was still doing around.

I would assume those tractors were sold in the Asia and Africa market, those models never made it to the U.S. ?
I would like to see what those tractors looked like,

I'd bet good money it was the 5050 platform they used, as it's a FIAT anyway. People tend to remember things different than they actually happen, or hear the story different than its told lol!

I will have to ask him next time i see him

Have you ever tried to tell a German anything?

The comment tractors couldnt support West Allis is so true - if they only would have moved tractor/ combine  production to its own/only facility as the Allis Chalmers Farm Equipment Company; sounds good in hindsite- but they were so far gone there was no resurection ,, sad , as they were a 2 Billion dollar company with record profits in 1979,,

What I don't get is the modern day AGCO. Why did they drop the Allis Chalmers name, or even the orange AGCO tractors that had a strong loyal following in North America, and instead are trying to ram only German Fendt's down our throats?

Fendt tractors are becoming very popular near us. Their highway speed is a big seller as many farmers in the next county have farms 30 miles apart. Massey is popular also in that same area. Locally NH is probably the most popular next to JD. Our county still has plenty of AC’s still hard at work. Between my brothers and I we account for 14 of em lol.

Prior to the duetz buyout AC was planning or throwing the idea around moving tractor production out of west allis. The plant was dated and labour/union costs apparently were high.
Along with outsourcing engines.
On a higher note when agco moved tractor production to independence out of coldwater, some of the former AC engineering employees gave the 9100 series (whites)a make over with the release of 9600 series. Have a look at one the AC influence clearly shows. To bad that all ended a few short years later.

According to our Allis dealer at the time, Deutz owned 20% of Steiger; Steiger was going to manufacture row crop tractors for Deutz-Allis, using a Deutz engine. CaseIH threw a monkey wrench into that plan, when they purchased the 80% of Steiger that Deutz didn't own. So, they went shopping for a someone to manufacture a tractor for them. According to our dealer, they went with White for two reasons; (1) Deutz engineers felt only the White rear end could hold up to the low end torque of the Deutz engine, and (2) White was offering them the best warranty.