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    Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 7:14pm
Is it just me, or are prices out of sight for tractors?  It used to be that a guy with some looking could find a decent 7060 for around 6-7K, a WD45 running for around 700-1000, a decent 190xt for around 4500-5500.  These were central nebraska prices.  Now I am trying to find a couple of tractors to play with, and it seems everybody wants 1500 or up for a non running WD, WC, or similar.  Am I just not finding the deals I used to, or what?  Given, these don't seem to be selling, but they don't want to come down either.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Reeseholler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 7:49pm
I found when this "recession" started that prices went up. Everybody wanted to use their tractors as their stimulus package I guess. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ILGLEANER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 8:11pm
Same resaon people want 6000 acre for ground when it was 3000  2 years ago.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CTuckerNWIL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 8:19pm
Yep, it's called inflation. Corn used to be $3.00 and now it's $7 so really your getting a deal if the tractor price hasn't gone up 50% in the last 2 years.
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I think askin and gettin is 2 different things. I listed a wide front CA here for 750.00 and didn't get one nibble. Done knocked it in the head. 
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The prices of new tractors have pulled the prices of used equipment up also. Anyone looking for decent used horsepower is comparing prices to new. I payed just over $10K for my 7060, but I got a tractor that will last me the rest of my farming career.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DougG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Mar 2011 at 8:52am
Huh , here in Mo prices seem the same  ??? Even a little lower ,  As stated  askin and gettin that price or two different things
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Just after the market crash of 2008 people were fearful of what was going to happen with our economy.  Businesses and individuals were highly leveraged and didn't have a revenue stream to pay for the debt that was incurred during the good times.  Equipment and assets were being sold a fire sale prices.

Now that things have "normalized", the fire sale prices are few and far between.  The equipment that was sold during the panic was exported.  Now that there is less good equipment on the market prices have gone up.

The other factor involved in the price of old equipment is that scrap iron prices have climbed again to record levels.  Depending on where you are in the country over-sized number one iron is worth between 185.00 and 300.00 per ton.  What this means is that the 2.5 ton AC WD 45 is worth between 450.00 and 750.00 at the scrap yard. 

Therefore instead of taking insulting offers on the tractor people are taking off a few high value parts, carb, distributor, manifold, starter, alternator, radiator, tires, sheet metal ect.  Selling the parts and sending the rest to the scrap pile.

As oil prices continue to climb expect scrap prices to rise as well.  If you really think you want that old tractor then pay the price or it is going to be exported and come back as another cheap consumer product with the "Made in China" label on it.
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Boy sounds like I need to jack the price of my refurbed all-crops LOL!
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Originally posted by VTTractorParts VTTractorParts wrote:

Just after the market crash of 2008 people were fearful of what was going to happen with our economy.  Businesses and individuals were highly leveraged and didn't have a revenue stream to pay for the debt that was incurred during the good times.  Equipment and assets were being sold a fire sale prices.
Well I really wasn't talking about a two year drop then return downward spike, I was talking about what seemed to be a fairly flat price point since the mid '90s, now in the last few short years it has blown up, I guess the scrap price, and inflation have done in the reasonable price point.
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We have to remember that times are changing.  There is more interest in restoring tractors than ever.  The car restoration has gone out of sight and I feel many are moving to tractors for a rebuild.  Also, with Grain and farm Prices as high as they are there is money available to purchase items.  I see the truckloads of new imported tractors and farm equipment leaving the Port of Baltimore as living proof that the farming economy is better.  I am certain good running used equipment now brings a premium.
I remember my friend in DE who repairs old tractors, hangs a lawn mower on them, and sells them at a profit.  Last time he said that the people he sold them to were now buying them and bringing them to him to repair for lawn use. 
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I think it really depends on what it is. Only certain models of any mfg are going to hold value or go up. All the rest is basically hovering at scrap value.
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I'm thinkin parts (for the most part hehehe) are way down too. Been a while since I did an Epay search for Allis. Did one tonight and only found 2 pages for CA. Most stuff had no bids. Used to be 25 or more pages of stuff. And this is prime time of the year too.
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Three years ago sold a WD with a E series gleaner engine for $5,500.00. It ran great and was repainted and looked great. Have a similiar unit today, repainted with gleaner engine and a loader. not moving for $3,500.00
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Orange Blood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Mar 2011 at 6:18am
Originally posted by Steve Wilkens Steve Wilkens wrote:

Three years ago sold a WD with a E series gleaner engine for $5,500.00. It ran great and was repainted and looked great. Have a similiar unit today, repainted with gleaner engine and a loader. not moving for $3,500.00
WOW, see there is part of the problem, maybe I am just too stingy, I would never pay over 3K for a fully restored WD, I am happy for you, that you got that kind of money.  There are just too many of them out there.  I am wondering if the same thing that happened to pickup trucks is partially what is happening here as well.  Used to be uncool to drive a truck if you were a city slicker, truck prices stayed low, then for some dumb reason everybody wanted a truck in the '80s. Guess what, truck prices shot up like crazy.  Too much non farm money inflating the demand for pickups, and now tractors I guess.  Guess that's it, I am just stuck in the past! :)
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HD7 WC C CA WD 2-WD45 WD45LP WD45D D14 3-D17 D17LP 2-D19D D19LP 190XTD 190XTLP 720 D21 220 7020 7030 7040 7045 3-7060
Projects: 3-U UC 2-G 2-B 2-C CA 7-WC RC WDLP WF D14 D21 210 7045 N7
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Only 2 reasons for high prices. Someone wants it or the seller doesn't really need to sell it.
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More run-of-the-mill stuff will struggle during these difficult times, but the older  machines will always make good money - there aren't any more of them!
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