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desertjoe 
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 Topic: Whats a good rust remover,,,,
Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 12:29am |
One of my small generators must of got some water in it and set for some time. The oldest boy has got a Deer hunt coming up and did not want to take the big generator, so I dug out a 1500 Kawasaki. It had not been used for 3-4 years and would not start for chit. Pulled the front cover and the coil and flywheel contacts was very rusty. Took a wire wheel to em and looked good,but still no start,,, Pulled carb and did not look too bad but fuel inlet was full of gunk.!! pulled tank and the goldernest mess in there,,,where the heck did all the rust come from????? I always leave some fuel in those tanks with a little stabil but this sob is bad shape.. I put bout a dozen sharp edged rocks in tank and sloshed it with some water for bout 15 minutes,,and I got a LOT of rusty water coming out but this sob gonna need lots better help,,,,,,, What do others use for a good rust remover,,??
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Matt (Jordan,MN)
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Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 2:56am |
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evaporust works really well
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 5:46am |
small rocks(not pointy ones) into tank, strap tank to A-C tractor wheel, go for a drive for 1/2-1 hr, remove tank, clean out, inspect, repeat if necessary. if it's really,really bad you might find NOS tank online.princess auto has some 'honda-lke' in the 'surplus' aisle.
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Dave H
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Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 7:11am |
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Check up on how to treat it with phosphoric acid.
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Gary
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Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 7:17am |
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Joe may not know what Princess Auto is.
He may think it is some member of the Royal Family in the UK.
Be best to mention Harbor Freight.
Gary
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desertjoe
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Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 8:35am |
Hey THANKS for the translation,,Gary,,,,  Chit,,,i run thet thru Youtube and didn't get a single hit and and since you done give me a reason to go to HF,,,,I'll go look tamarrow. BUT,,,,BUT,,,,and ole Shameless is flat gonna LOVE this,,,,while cruisin thru the youtube videos,,,I find where this dude used ole Shameless's favorite ,,,,,Apple Cider Vinegar,,,he bought a couple of jugs and filled the tank with it straight ,,left it overnight and ,,,Presto,,,the tank looked like new next mornin!!!! On my way to walmart,,,,
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 9:03am |
Apple Cider Vinegar will only get you so far, maybe light rust that has not progressed too long. Picked up a D15II as a parts tractor and ran it on sellers temp. motorcycle tank to run it as tank was downright nasty from sitting for years. Put my own plastic lawnmower tank on it this year for verifying she is gonna be put to work (rear lift seals were all that she needed) and decided to try the ACV on the nasty tank. Hardly phased it so rinsed with gas, let it dry while off to Home Depot for Muriatic Acid in the swimming pool section. Bunged her off including an old gas gage and a gas cap with gasket removed, set atop 4x4 blocks outside. 2 gallons of MA cleaned it to bare metal within 20-30 minutes and it was rotated carefully to effect all sides. Finished with it upside down and cracked the plug threads in the outlet so she would not build up pressure. That was not a problem as the MA found plenty of pin holes in the upper half and a water hose was let run under it on slight downgrade. MA is pretty nasty stuff so be careful if you use it, good idea to have a jug of baking soda mixed in water nearby, a water hose and of course, safety shield AND safety glasses!Good to have some MM Oil ready if she cleans up without holes, couple cups rotating the tank so it is good and coated will allow immediate use with gas or storage as it will prevent "flash rust" as it dries.
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Gary
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Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 12:44pm |
Joe Here is a link to the Website of one near where I used to live. They are very similar to Harbor Freight. Gary https://www.princessauto.com/en/store?storeId=22
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NomoreJohnDeere
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Posted: 14 Dec 2019 at 12:50pm |
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shameless dude
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Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 1:02am |
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used to have a princess auto in Omaha NE, but they closed and moved out. sure was a handy place!
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desertjoe
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Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 6:04am |
Hey,,Tim,,many thanks for thet info,,I'ma gonna try the ACV first cause I'm a firm believer of thet stuff,,,but if it don't do the job,,,it's gonna be some MA, like you say,,,,
But I may have bigger problems than just some rust in the tank,,,, when I first spun the engine,,,it was hard to pull on the rope but finally loosened up some and did not feel like too much compression,,,fixed up a temp gas tank like you did and engine still would NOT start. pulled the spark plug, sprayed some start fluid but still no go so, pulled the ign coil and cleaned the contacts and flywheel,,,where did all this friggin rust come from,,?? Well,,I gots some great spark now but still no start,,so figured maybe the valves leakin thru and pulled the head and some carbon built up but valves and seats are clean,,,WTF,,? filled cylinder with ATF/Acetone mix and let it set for a few days,,sure didn't want to break it down any farther cause this piston has to come out the btm of engine,,BFJ,,,chit,,,chit,,!!
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 7:07am |
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Yeah I KNOW Princess Auto...have since '77 when I bought Willys parts from them out in Winterpeg. The USED to have a HUGE selection of true surplus stuff, best local place for hyrdraulics and trailer stuff and NO problems returning anything, even after a year !
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Stan IL&TN
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Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 1:53pm |
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Just throw that tank away and find a plastic one. You know I'm right.😊
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Posted: 15 Dec 2019 at 4:30pm |
I thought that white vinegar was for cleaning stuff up? And ACV was for cooking, drinking, pickling, etc.. I've been wrong before.....Just ask my ex....she'll tell ya! 
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