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acd21man ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: tn Points: 831 |
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i know yall love green so who can tell me what makes this 4040 john deere rare and how many was built ?? ps i have new fenders for it and all the shelds
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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What makes it rare? It still runs.
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Dswall ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 2014 Location: Lindsay ca Points: 260 |
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Looks like an orchard model. John Deere didn't make many orchard models in the 30 and 40 series. Green guy pay good money for that tractor. My neighbor has 2 4230 orchard models and has had guys call from all over trying to buy them. He still farms with them.
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LSilseth ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 29 Dec 2014 Location: NYA, MN Points: 196 |
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Low-profile and no cab.
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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I don't know but if it is rare and runs I say let someone else own it and buy a couple of orange ones to keep that 170 company. Best looking part of the photo if you ask me.
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darrel in ND ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8715 |
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Pretty witty for a youngen, Creston. I like that. Darrel |
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BigBadAllis ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Points: 90 |
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Looks like a self modded cab removal and lowered with smaller tires. Note the operators station and small fenders.
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Dans 7080 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Points: 1146 |
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It looks like the 4post canopy was removed. I don't see anything rare about it. Most 4040s had 34 inch rear tires.
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BenGiBoy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Nov 2015 Location: Ashville, NY Points: 705 |
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Maybe the fact that it is staring the Allis 170 in the face and not budging? Most of them would have 'run' off by now.
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Ronnie ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Mar 2014 Location: New Brighton Points: 557 |
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The tool box on the side makes it rare
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acd21man ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: tn Points: 831 |
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no you guys crack me up lol..
but the tractor is a powershift open station 4040 they made 400 of them maybe less then 400 i dont know and it has 30s not 34
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Dick L ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Edon Ohio Points: 5087 |
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What makes most of the John Deere's rare is the ability to type the word (RARE) when advertising it.
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acd21man ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: tn Points: 831 |
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2 wd 45,2 D-17 diesel/gas 3 pt, 220,d21, 4020,2 4430s used daily http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCudh8Xz9_rZHhUC3YNozupw
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JayIN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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Sorry, still looks like green crap. .......
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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So you asked a question with the answer being about the transmission but the one photo you showed didn't show the shifter. That is typical jd.
They must have been really good if they only made 400 of them I think that would make it something I really wouldn't want a tractor so bad even jd stopped making them. |
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dpower ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Madison Ne Points: 1578 |
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Nice tractor, ran the neighbors several times and worked good. Never seen one of them like this though. Thanks for posting pictures of it.
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acd21man ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: tn Points: 831 |
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dan i was really just showing the tractor. i didnt expect anyone to know anything about it.
and they built the powershift from maybe 64?? to i think 92 so there wasnt just 400 built. there was 400 of this combination built what makes it odd is the combination of being a fender tractor and powershift |
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Dan73 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |
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Well it does look pretty for a green tractor and it has a normal motor not that shake you off the tractor motor so it is probably a good ride if you can afford to fix it when it breaks...
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Dans 7080 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Points: 1146 |
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My uncle bought a 4040 new in I think 81 or 82. 4post quad range. It was his big tractor for many years, til he got the 4430 with a cab. After that he wondered how he got along without the cab in the winter. Raised 11 kids on 200 acres milking 70-80 head.
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VAfarmboy ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Location: Virginia Points: 470 |
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A 4040 is nothing but a 4230 with the screw turned back so it only makes 90HP and different stickers on the hood. It has the same 404 engine, same Roosa Master injecton pump and everything.
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5094 |
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Not exactly the same Roosa pump as a 4230, but yes, it is very similar, only a few different parts, and about 4cc fuel difference. A 4040 is a neat little tractor, and the one you have here is a pretty cool combination, fender tractor with PS. I like it! I put quite a few hours on a 4040 years ago, but it was a cab/quad range tractor.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 3042 |
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So does it have the 8 or 12 speed power shift? Basically an updated 4020. I think it'll make a nice tractor for you. It's hard to knock that 404 engine and powershift. Maybe not be the BEST or smoothest shift (Trying to keep from getting a virtual pitchfork in the gut) but a nice all around tractor.
What size tires are on the back? They look small. Like 28's that the Allis's had??? LOL PS at lease when you push in the foot clutch the tractor stops, but the PTO doesn't AND you can put in it park and walk away. Ok I'm dead.... What makes it rare? It's on the AC forum Edited by Allis dave - 12 Oct 2016 at 8:12am |
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5094 |
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power-shift on the 40 series is still 8 speed. The 15 speed came with the 50 series.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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acd21man ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Location: tn Points: 831 |
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ya ed is right they had the 8 speed from the 20s to the 40 and went to the 50,55 they had a 15 speed
allis dave i loved that the tires are 30s
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JayIN ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Dec 2009 Location: SE/IN Points: 1982 |
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Wasn't the 4040 A non turbo engine? Can't remember.....
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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"
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CrestonM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8455 |
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Let's see...Allis turbo-ed the D19, and they came out in 1961, so (add 30 years) John Deere should've came out with a turbo tractor around 1991. That makes this tractor too old for a factory turbo. Lol
That is...following the widely accepted theory John Deere has always been 30 years behind everyone else. Edited by CrestonM - 12 Oct 2016 at 5:24pm |
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5094 |
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While Deere is always behind the 8 ball, the 4520 was their first turbo'd row crop farm tractor, and it was released in 69 I think.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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About 1969 Deere came out with two turbo'd tractors, one with intercooler, and one without intercooler. I think 4320 without and 4620 with. I am hundreds of miles from my I&T manual that covers them.
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 3042 |
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4620 had an intercooler, not sure about a 4320. 4520 had no intercooler.
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injpumpEd ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Walnut IL Points: 5094 |
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The 4520 came out in 69, straight turbo-charged. They had so many problems with them that shortly after, the 4520 was replaced with the 4620 with an intercooler, and slightly more hp, and the 4320 was released then too straight turbo-charged, and slightly less hp than the 45. 45 & 46 were available with power-shift, the 43 was not.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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