What is this and how do I put an alternator on it?

I bought this tractor couple weeks ago from a person who told me that it was in 1942 Alice charmer CA. This story goes that the generator was taken off of it by some local hoodlums and the man didn't have time to fix it. So right after I bought it I went out and I got all of the parts to make it a 12 V system and use an alternator. Whenever I got the alternator mounting bracket I realized that there is nowhere to mount the bracket and that in fact I was dealing with a completely different engine. I've ran the numbers and I think that the motor comes off of an older Allis Chalmers B. I'll include pictures so that you all can have a look at it. If anyone has any ideas of what this engine is and the proper way to put an alternator on it I would be extremely grateful. Thank you

that is a B.  the front axle looks that way anyhow.  there isn't a way to put a gen or alt on that without changing engine block.  does it have pto?  build a bracket and run the alt off it.

A few photos of the whole tractor might help better identify it. Those photos look like a B not a CA. The rod from the steering box to front end would show in the photo if it was a CA or C.

What are you going to do with the tractor?

Edited by WF owner - 03 Apr 2019 at 6:43pm

WF is right..... Just put the 12 volt battery in it, charge it good, and then use it... Connect to a charger once a month and forget it.

Like WF owner says if you ain't gonna run lights don't worry about an alternator. I have a WC unstyled. I put a newer bell housing on it so it'd have electric start and like you I have a Mag. So I just charge the battery every now and then. One charge will crank it a bunch of times.

Steve in NJ wrote: Dick, You have way to much time on your hands man! A color coordinated valve train. You're to much!   LMAO! Steve@B&B

All the heads I put small block Chevy valves in I painted the valve train that way.

I have a B I use the same way as WF owner. I bet I haven't charged my battery 3 or 4 times in the three years I had it. It will crank many times on one charge and I can use the tractor for most anything I want.

Dick L wrote: Steve in NJ wrote: Dick, You have way to much time on your hands man! A color coordinated valve train. You're to much!   LMAO! Steve@B&B All the heads I put small block Chevy valves in I painted the valve train that way.

30 years in the future someone will take this motor apart and post on here that they found a demonstrator B. Looks good Dick L. Never saw a 42 ca.

HoughMade,

Like you I wondered about the starter, but the focus has been on mounting an alternator, so I assumed (we'll see how that works out) he has a starter and battery box or wouldn't be asking this. Unless there is a need for electrical power beyond starting, I would go with the charge the battery occasionally group, rather than go to the work of adding an alternator on this one. But that is the owner's choice, we all have our way we want something others may not agree with.

No where do I see that Dirtd0bber has checked for the serial number which would be stamped into a flat spot near the shift lever on a B, C, or CA. That doesn't mean much right now, but may in the future if he needs other parts and info. It may well be a mix of the 3 models. He has looked for engine numbers as I read this.

Jim.ME wrote: HoughMade, Like you I wondered about the starter, but the focus has been on mounting an alternator, so I assumed (we'll see how that works out) he has a starter and battery box or wouldn't be asking this. Unless there is a need for electrical power beyond starting, I would go with the charge the battery occasionally group, rather than go to the work of adding an alternator on this one. But that is the owner's choice, we all have our way we want something others may not agree with...

Good afternoon Dirtd0bber,

I believe you have decided by now you didn't get quite what you bought.   There is a good possibility it is a B, not a CA. If you would please post a few photos that show both sides and the rear of the whole tractor to help folks ID just what you have. If you look around the gear shift lever you should see a "flat" rectangle area. The tractor serial number should be stamped into (not raised) that area. It will begin with a B, C, or CA, then numbers. From that, and the photos the fellows will likely identify just what you have. That will make getting parts and servicing it easier in the future. Sometimes identifying these old tractors and machines is part of the fun.

I'm thinking Bs and Cs were 3 speed, CAs were 4 speeds ??

It definitely is a 'B' and it's not an Alice charmer it's an Allis-Chalmers.
YES, we need more pics to see what you really have.
Does it have a lever on the right hand side that sticks up about 2'?  It's a hand clutch.
Does it have a metal pan over the whole rear end/sitting area?
More pics

????  What happened to the O.P of this post??