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What is it? FredPA?
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    Posted: 22 Jul 2011 at 9:10am
Anyone know what this little gem is? 
 
D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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Cont. engine U ,not the early model .The early U had UNITED on top tank .
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Looks like they ran exhaust out the front .Bad idea with exhaust there to get sucked back into radi.
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John: Is it yours yet??
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This looks to be an early model IU-1 with a Continental engine. As far as I know only industral models had mufflers. You can see the tail pipe attached to the radiator. I say early model because of the Allis Chalmers name casted on the side of the rad and the use of steel wheels. I don't see this on the newer models I have seen in photos.
Joe's 1939 Model WC, 1940 Model RC, 1944 & 1950 Model C's, B-125 PU
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Not mine, it's going to be at auction.  I probably won't even go, unless Fred sends me a check to go buy it for him!!!!  Sure hope the scrap man don't get it!
 
Here is the flyer link.  Click on the "View Photo Gallery" link to see a few more pics.
 
 
 


Edited by john(MI) - 22 Jul 2011 at 1:58pm
D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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I am talking about early U Late U with Continental engine 1929 to 1932 .It is a late Cont .Engine U because it HAS AC on top tank and not UNITED.Most  I-U's  did not have fenders .
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Somebody buy it!  It would be a crime for it to go to China!  My $0.02
Why is there never time to do it right the first time, but always time to go back and fix it?
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Here is a pic with Allis Chalmers on side of rad of a 1930 U. I have a pic of a 1932 U with knowthing on the side of the rad. According to the AC Data Book, a muffler was an option for the U which would explain the tail pipe.
Joe's 1939 Model WC, 1940 Model RC, 1944 & 1950 Model C's, B-125 PU
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Originally posted by Osage_Orange Osage_Orange wrote:

Somebody buy it!  It would be a crime for it to go to China!  My $0.02
I'd love to have it but probably can't afford it.
Joe's 1939 Model WC, 1940 Model RC, 1944 & 1950 Model C's, B-125 PU
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MdTractor ,they do not always bring alot .
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Wow, dang it John!!!!
 
The last time you posted an auction, I ended up with 2 grain drills and another tractor! Quit doin that! lol
 
Just kiddin. Thanks for posting these and lettin us know whats up for sale. I do appreciate it.
 
I don't think I will be biddin on this one, a little light on the wallet right now from last time. I am really hopin a couple AC guys in that corner of the state get it!!!
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Whats this worth? It aint that far at all from me and it looks to be in good shape!
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I would guess about $1500. to $2500.
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Yep, sure looks like it ot to be in Fred show room
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Yep i sold about 5 of these .
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it isn,t an industrial u. I havn't look at the farm but I think the 3  bolt pattern is the same on the manifold and the elbow can be turn. thxchuck
still looking for the holy grail of Allis
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doesn't it look like the top tank of the radiator has been changed, I looked at Brother Brad's 1930 U and Dave Maddux's 1929 U today and Dave's has the allis chalmers and the radiator sides, where Brad's doesn't
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It is my opinion that the muffler set up is home made, because the owner was afraid of the original exhaust shooting out on top of the carburetor. I personally have seen carbon sparks shoot out onto the carb. Not all carbs are tight, and dry. Some may leak gas.  Dave.
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