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    Posted: Yesterday at 12:58am
Customer brings in a 2004 chevy avalanche 5.3 liter said check engine light is in. I scan it and get a random misfire along with a mass air flow sensor under reporting. I also took it for a drive. During the drive I notice the check engine light to flash.

Told the customer my feelings. He wants to do plugs and wires seeing as it has 180k on the vehicle. And he wanted the mass air flow.

I do the work. Start it ag still misses. This time no flashing light and no mass air flow code.

Look farther into this random miss and my monitor on the scanner is going nuts for cylinder 2 and 7. Quick easy and no cost I move cylinder 2 coil to number 3 I belive. No help.

Doing some thinking what can cause this. Intake gaskets-- but long and short fuel show nearly prefect. Injectors-- again trims show good and during a balance test the 2 that missed performed just as good as ones that were not suspect.

Last before I gave up tonight I did a cam crank relearn. Tomorrow I'll go drive it.

Have I over looked anything or does anything come to your guys mind.
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off the top of my head....
hmm. 20 year old..

disconnect 'computer' connectors ,clean and reseat at least 3-4 times
inspect(remove/clean/reattach) ALL possible ground wires between engine and 'computer'
check wires on the 'coils' for chews,almost breaks,cuts.

have no idea HOW the computer decides 'misfire on #2'.... but I suspect 'bad' wires/connectors OR maybe the injector ? Coil could be fine, but inj not spraying right ??
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Hydraulic lifters? Maybe a couple getting weak/worn out. Lobe or two worn down on camshaft.
Owner probably was not diligent enough on oil changes.
I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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My 98 Isuzu Trooper did a similar missfire due to a bad intake manifold gasket. Replacing spark plugs didn't help.
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never had a chevy.. but 2001 and 2002 F150 with 5.4 and 2006 with 4.6  .... EVERY missfire i had was due to a COIL, bad INJECTOR , or the electrical plug/ bent wire on them..
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i did an ON LINE SEARCH for  "2004 chevy 5.3 missfire" ... and normally its coils or injectors... when those are changed and no help, it seems the problem goes to the Lifters wearing out.. Several posts on that Known problem .
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I have an '05 Saturn Vue and had a similar problem with the V6.  My mechanic buddy checked it out and it was showing a miss on #5 and intermittent on #2.  He swapped plugs and coils around and no difference.  He said it had probably never had a valve adjustment, so got my OK to do it.  That fixed it, but with a $1000 bill as half the engine has to be taken apart and re-assembled.  6 hours labor! 

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Presently I have a similar problem with my 99 F150 with 5.4, check engine light illuminating then later intermittently flashing, showing misfiring on #3. I’m thinking bad computer/connection or grounding issues. Let us know what you find. 
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