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Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 1:16pm |
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battery fine, ground good, power to starter switch on starter, changed out starter switch on starter, nothin. tried the battery direct to starter nothin. and i mean nothin, not a click or nothin. think it's the starter? any help is appreciated, thanks.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 1:27pm |
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brushes not making contact - do you get any spark when jumping directly to starter - if not then open somewhere in starter - could be many things from bad field coils, to worn brushes - remove and disassemble to find problem
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Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 2:05pm |
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Check the contact between the pull switch on the starter and the contact area on the starter they may be dirty
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Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 2:24pm |
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no spark when direct to starter. checked lug on starter, brite and shiny. will take starter off in the morning and have it tested. thanks guys.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 5:34pm |
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You might smack, rap or tap the starter in a few places just in case the brushes are stuck and for no other reason than to release a little frustration. Sounds like it is internal to the starter. Oh and also check that pinch bolt that holds the starter in place.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 6:30pm |
yea, make sure that starter is GROUNDED. ... and make sure you have juice out to the end of the cable. check with a load such as having your lights on and see if they dim when you put the cable to the starter. If they dim, you got bad connection.
I once put a better looking cable on a tractor and it didn't work... turned out that it was not making connection in the lead battery post clamp. ... and there are times the battery will registered voltage good, but simply don't have any amps left in it.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 6:43pm |
It sure sounds like with all your testing, that the starter is suspect. Something not right in there! Do you have a spare starter or a known working one from another unit? Swap and test. Regards,
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Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 6:11am |
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thanks guys, gonna beat on starter this morning and check starter ground before i yank it out. ???, there is a small spring load cap on starter for lube. should i be putting a little oil in there???
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Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 6:25am |
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Shine up the part of the starter that goes up in the bellhousing and shine the opening as well. Also shine up the end of the set screw that holds the starter in and where it seats.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 7:47am |
 trace wrote:
thanks guys, gonna beat on starter this morning and check starter ground before i yank it out. ???, there is a small spring load cap on starter for lube. should i be putting a little oil in there??? |
Sure you can put a drop of oil in there too. Some pictures may help? Even on a electrical issue some sharp eye might see a issue! Beat gently!:) Regards, Chris
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Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 8:25am |
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beat the starter, fired right up. so do i need to replace it or will this resolve? don't want this problem at -20 below this winter.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 8:53am |
trace wrote:
beat the starter, fired right up. so do i need to replace it or will this resolve? don't want this problem at -20 below this winter. |
It will remain "finicky". If you want it as good as possible, you've found the issue. May not need replacing, but disassembled, cleaned, rebuilt, etc.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 9:36am |
Take if it is a grounding issue, that could be all that is wrong, but take the cover off over the brushes and see how worn they are and what the armature looks like. If it looks good and clean on the inside, chances are, it was your ground. But for your peace of mind, you could have it looked at and know it is ready for winter. and the next many years to come.
.... and sometimes if a person takes something apart and looks at it just because he thought he had to, and finds it looks okay and goes to reassemble it, it doesn't work as good afterwards and ends up with a new problem that needs attention to correct. 
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Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 11:04am |
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rebuilder back from vacay next week. taking it to him to rebuild. thanks for all the help guys, this forum a wealth of knowledge!
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Posted: 29 Aug 2019 at 3:02pm |
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Good for you. Most of the time it's hard to give suggestions because the same symptom could be caused by several things but every once and awhile the blind squirrel finds a nut. 😜
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