This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


WD drawbar guide
 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Jaybird14 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Jul 2019
Location: Wisconsin
Points: 36 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jaybird14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: WD drawbar guide
    Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 7:16am
My drawbar guide has long slots in the end vs holes. First question is why the two types?
Second question is will my slotted type work with the “new”
 wd cultivator I just picked up?

Thanks!
Jay


Edited by Jaybird14 - 17 Apr 2025 at 7:17am
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 22166 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 7:47am
The drawbar bail ???    The slotted ends type was for snap-coupler tractors so the drawbar could be easily dropped on and off the tractor. No slots was all WD's and any WD45's without snap-coupler.
Back to Top
Jaybird14 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Jul 2019
Location: Wisconsin
Points: 36 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jaybird14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 8:07am
yes it is for a snap coupler draw bar. My WD is a 51 but has a snap coupler on it.
Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 22166 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 9:25am
Thousands of WD's have been converted to snap-coupler. Everyone I've ever been around had the "holes" torched out to make "slots" instead of buying a brand new slotted bail. And for those who think that all WD-45's had a snap-coupler, and it was standard equipment, you could also order it as a "delete" of the snap-coupler bell and lift arm latches. I believe it was a $25 or $30 deduct in price. I own a spring of 1957 WD-45 that never had a snap-coupler bell or lift arm latches and has a slotless drawbar bail. When I plow, I split the drawbar and then swing the bail clear to the top and re-pin it.
Back to Top
Jaybird14 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Jul 2019
Location: Wisconsin
Points: 36 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jaybird14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 9:53am
do you think my cultivator will work with the snap coupler bail?
Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 22166 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 12:41pm
The rear tire track scratcher ?? I don't know why it wouldn't work.  The bail is the same slotted or not slotted. It's just a matter of how easy it comes off or reinstalls. The bail doesn't get removed for the rear scratcher that I remember.
Back to Top
Jaybird14 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Jul 2019
Location: Wisconsin
Points: 36 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jaybird14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 5:39pm
Thanks!

The reason I even question it is the cultivator manual tells me to remove the pins so the bail can raise and lower with the implement .  I assume it pivots on the bail’s front holes… but I have slots .. just making sure it doesn’t fall off.



Edited by Jaybird14 - 17 Apr 2025 at 5:41pm
Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 22166 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 6:15pm
Well, it will fall off if you remove the pins on a slotted bail. I don't remember Dad"s attaching like that. Using the bail itself I mean. 
Back to Top
SteveM C/IL View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Shelbyville IL
Points: 8684 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveM C/IL Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 7:48am
Dads WD got converted to SC  so torched bail. Ran a 2 row frt mnt cultivator with rear scratcher. Didn't the scratcher pin into bail arms? That would require bail pinned to tractor. Did we have to shorten drawbar?
Back to Top
Jaybird14 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Jul 2019
Location: Wisconsin
Points: 36 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jaybird14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 7:59am
the manual doesn’t show it very good. It just says remove the pins from both ditches so the bail can pivot.???
Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 22166 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 10:11am
BUT, if you have an OLD cultivator manual, that may have been true. Not true some years later with snap-coupler system.
Back to Top
Jaybird14 View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 14 Jul 2019
Location: Wisconsin
Points: 36 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jaybird14 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 10:48am
my manual must be an older one. It also has the WC conversion.



Edited by Jaybird14 - 18 Apr 2025 at 10:48am
Back to Top
kevin LA-CA View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: california
Points: 71 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kevin LA-CA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2025 at 8:16pm
I found a later model WD cultivator manual at the farm. It is for a snap coupler tractor. The furrowing bar as it is called mounts with a special clevis to the draw bar. It only has one lower arm. The description seems to mount the bail to the pins and remove the upper bolts.

Grandpa's bar has two lower arms and no clevis. It think it was before he converted the WD to SC. He bought the WD new in 1948. Looking at it bail is allowed to swing on the top bolts, pins on extensions insert into the pin adjustment holes on the bail. A bolt then secures the extension to a hole at the bottom of the bail.

In both versions a part of the drawbar system in the lower hinge.
Back to Top
Lon(MN) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Merrill Wi
Points: 2041 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lon(MN) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2025 at 6:59am
I have a drawbar guide that has not been modified for sale if you are interested.
http://lonsallischalmers.com
Back to Top
dr p View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 24 Feb 2019
Location: new york
Points: 1418 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr p Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2025 at 5:12pm
You will need to pick up a bail from a wd. I had the same issue with my wd45 that has snap coupler and a wd disc plow.

Edited by dr p - 02 May 2025 at 5:13pm
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.082 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum