This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity. | ||||||
The Forum | Parts and Services | Unofficial Allis Store | Tractor Shows | Serial Numbers | History |
wc,wd speeds |
Post Reply |
Author | |
wcallispuller
Bronze Level Joined: 17 Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 11 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Posted: 21 Aug 2013 at 8:58pm |
Does anybody know the difference in 1st gear speeds on a WC, WD, WD-45, if they all had the same size tire and running the same RPM's? In looking at the manuals and Nebraska test it appears that they all had a rated speed of 2.5 mph in 1st gear, but ran different size tires. So where the rearends geared different?
|
|
Sponsored Links | |
BennyLumpkin
Orange Level Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Location: Centre Hall, PA Points: 2657 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I did a quick search and I know its been specifically covered with actual ratios. WC is the fastest, followed by WD, and WD45 then WD45 diesel in order to slowest. The things that can vary that is using an RC rear in a WC or using a speed patrol/maintainer rear.
|
|
Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
|
DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20546 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
The actual internal transmission gears between a WC and old WD are exactly the same parts (just located in a different case) and are 2 1/2...3 3/4...5 MPH. The WC is rated at 1300 rpm and WD at 1400 rpm but the slower ring & pinion and final drive ratios in the WD allow for 100 more RPM and maybe a little bit bigger rear tire and still wind up with almost the same actual ground speed. The late WD and all WD45's had a slower 1st gear of 2 1/3 MPH but second and third gear were still 3 3/4 and 5 mph. As I understand it, the slower low gear was for harvesting of better crops as years went by. The WD45 diesel ran 1625 RPM so the rearend ring and pinion was slowed down to make the ground speeds once again 2 1/3....3 3/4.....5 MPH even with the engine running at 1625 RPM. A-C always wanted 2nd and 3rd gear to be for plowing and discing and knew what MPH generally worked the best. Another way to look at this would be a WC running at 1400 RPM will be traveling 2.7 MPH instead of 2.5 MPH at 1300 RPM. (2.5 mph times 1400 rpm divided by 1300 rpm equals 2.7 mph).
|
|
wcallispuller
Bronze Level Joined: 17 Mar 2013 Location: Iowa Points: 11 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
Thanks for the info guys it was a great help.
|
|
BennyLumpkin
Orange Level Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Location: Centre Hall, PA Points: 2657 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
He's such a better "explainer" than me lol
|
|
Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254 1945 WF 1945 WC135755 1951 WD68085 1953 WD45-150217 1957 WD45D-230744D B110 |
|
Glockhead SWMI
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: South West Mich Points: 2657 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
I'd like to know Dr Allis history. This is a man that has obviously done something! The amount of allis info he has from the little tractors right up the the latest tractors allis had to offer is staggering.
|
|
Post Reply | |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |