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Steve in NJ 
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Posted: 04 May 2010 at 10:21pm |
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Okay, WC question. I took a little time tonight to tinker with ole' Hercule's my WC. I bought a seat assy that's equipped with the shock absorber and spring. Now originally, ole Herc' had the flat leaf spring with pan seat. I went to install the seat assy that I got off e-bay that was on a WC, and its wider where the seat attaches to the rearend than where the original spring mounted. What's up wit' dat? Is there an adapter that goes in the notch first for the shock absorber seat to mount on top of? Scratchin' my head here.....
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 5:04am |
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The couple that I took off over the years, they had put a piece of flat stock in between the channels that was flush with the top and then just bolt the seat assembly over top. I guess if you want to do it right, you could find a flat stock piece that was the right size and then weld it to the bottom of the seat frame to keep the seat from pivoting on the one bolt.
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Max(ia)
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 9:20am |
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Chuck's right, there should have been a block welded to the frame bottom. Mine was missing also, so I put an oak block there, works fine. Also took the old shock into NAPA and they matched up close enough to work.
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Brian Ahart
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 10:57am |
Here you go Steve. This is the parts diagram for the Monroe 16009 WC seat: 
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wjohn
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 11:01am |
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Seeing this diagram made me realize where the seat on my tractor probably came from. Somebody welded the entire setup shown abouve into the seat frame angle iron on my 1939 B!
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 11:35am |
Thanks guys for the help! I knew you guys would come through. Thank You Brian for the pic. That's ma' seat alright. My intent after I saw that the seat obviously wasn't gonna fit between the casted area on the rearend where the original leaf spring setup set, that I was gonna havta' make that work with some sort of adapter. Funny though, that diagram doesn't show any type of adapter or block that would go under the front where the bolt attaches... Time for some hotrodder inginuity! LOL!
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 12:26pm |
That looks like the seat may dad put on his F-20 in the mid 40's.
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 3:52pm |
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I believe if you look closely at the front in the diagram, the block is there...
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 7:40pm |
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Actually, there is a square pad on the bottom of my seat bracket in that location as in the pic, but its no where thick enough to make up the difference in height. It looks to be a reinforcement. I measured the casted area that the original spring and pan seat bolted in. Between the stepped casting in the rearend, and the little wedge stop on the opposite side (to keep the spring from turning) is 3" across. Looks like I need a 3/4" thick x 3" wide block to fit in that area to bring it so the Monroe seat sits level. And of coarse, a much longer bolt. Well, like Ford says in their parts books when they discontinue a part for one of their model vehicles "Improvise". And that I'll do......
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Rick of HopeIN
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Posted: 05 May 2010 at 8:11pm |
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they used that Monroe seat on Farmalls too. You can get the parts but they are red and pricey. Mine is worn out so I plan to convert back to the leaf spring type.
Edited by Rick of HopeIN - 05 May 2010 at 8:15pm
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Posted: 06 May 2010 at 5:16am |
steve -- i got one of those busted up seats on my junk pile. let me see what parts are there. alan
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 06 May 2010 at 10:53pm |
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Okay Alan Thanks! Let me know what you find.....
Steve
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