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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 6:57pm |
 steve(ill) wrote:
Before the lockdown, i use to take the two grandkids to McDonalds two times a week... Eat then play in the jungle gym area..... We would be there an hour... EVERY person under 40 years old would walk in, walk up to the kiosk ( two of them) and order / pay for their food... EVERY ONE... Only the "old people" (me) walked up to the counter and told the girl what we wanted. |
There were multiple Mcd with the kiosks "here", they were removed within a year  .
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 7:00pm |
The "full service" gas station was before my time  .
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 7:07pm |
Still have a full service gas station in town here, 2 cents a gal more. Check your oil, tires, and clean the windows while they fill your tank. Bet there's still some in MI too. 
Edited by Kansas99 - 01 Aug 2021 at 7:08pm
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 7:20pm |
RE: I'm all for a fair wage/minimum wage. For some reason the ff joints get hit hard with wages/cost of product. Even the $13 for full time really doesn't seem like enough in this day and age  .
How much should they pay? When you mandate a minimum wage there are consequence's like automation.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 7:22pm |
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 7:24pm |
I was on the notion of Parity earlier today while having a burger for lunch today. The one and only non chain burger joint in a town of 35,000+ people. Many of you less than 50 may never heard the term parity, comes from O'l FDR and his starting the USA down the road of destruction.  Yes back then you could starve without a job so a lot of what he started was needed. But look what one little step started. 
It was to compare how many goods (shirt, shoes, wrench , lb of coffee, etc., etc.) you could buy with a bushel of wheat. Was a real number the Commodity Credit Corporation or CCC (farmers welfare office) calculated and Washington DC used to figure farm payments into the 70's.
Anyway burger, fries, and a drink are $9.00 up to combo's with bacon or mushroom or 2 patties top out a $15.00. But I see a milk shake is $5.50 and it is not all that big. About twice the price of Jack in the Box one. But my wife had been looking at old times in town on space waste earlier this week. In 1970 to 73 a burger ,or Coke, or milkshake was 25 cents each. Back then minimum wage was $1.65 / hour so less than a 1/2 hour of work to buy lunch. You need to work 3/4 of a hour today at the $12 to $14 dollars/hour minimum Calif is on to be at $15 in a year or two.
So I have no answer for how much I will pay for a burger, but am happier supporting a local family running their own business than big time corporation. Even when some of the family is a little hard to understand cause English is not their first language.
Edited by Ray54 - 01 Aug 2021 at 8:13pm
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 9:44pm |
So I have no answer for how much I will pay for a burger, but am happier supporting a local family running their own business than big time corporation. Even when some of the family is a little hard to understand cause English is not their first language.
I agree with that logic Ray.......... but the local McDonalds hires 15 - 20 LOCAL High School kids and they all have a BEGINNING JOB to teach them how to work... Your supporting LOCAL and the kids are LEARNING how a JOB WORKS.
Edited by steve(ill) - 01 Aug 2021 at 9:45pm
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 11:48pm |
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The "full service" gas station was before my time . As usual, you completely missed my point |
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 3:38am |
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As a start most of us ‘old guys’ on here baled hay that is followed the farmer that mowed raked and baled to wagon loaded and stacked in a barn loft, many of us for pennies a bale.
Adults did some but most done by HS kids
Today can barely find help to get this done where many buy bale pickers and stack in a bale shed.
I mowed grass for $5 a yard included hand trim the house as string trimmers did not exist, I supplied mower and gas.
Worked at a gas station cleaning rest rooms, floors, garage floor and helped owner close up at night for $1.70/ hr and a penny/gal off my own gas buys. Final job before Army entry was bus boy at Italian restaurant, $1.20/ hr and part of tips that equated to pennies on dollars as waitresses tended to not share.
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Tbone95
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 8:23am |
Then what do you suppose the food will HAVE TO cost to cover that expense?
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 8:25am |
Kansas99 wrote:
Still have a full service gas station in town here, 2 cents a gal more. Check your oil, tires, and clean the windows while they fill your tank. Bet there's still some in MI too.
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Maybe.....trying to think how many years it's been since I've seen one here in MI though. And with a daughter in traveling softball and a son in traveling hockey, and 3 kids at 3 different colleges at one time, I got around the whole state a LOT>
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 9:53am |
There surely is a few but probably don't advertise it. Women over 70 would know, at least out here they would.
There's two in the county I live in, neither advertise it, one of them if not open no gas, the other has a cardtrol for 24hr gas. I have never seen a woman over 70 pump her own gas at the local station and several younger ones don't pump as well, I guess we're just backwards out here. The local phone co. never pumps there own gas only the station and the local fiberglass plant doesn't pump as well, company policy. I'm guessing there's no question what the gas went into and that the tires and oil are good to go. 2 cents a gal is probably cheap insurance for them.
Of course the 2 local trucking companies supply credit cards for fuel and it's surprising how many of there drivers drive diesel pickups. Once in a while a driver gets replaced do to really bad fuel mileage.
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Ray54
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 10:06am |
Sounds like Kansas must be a majic place, it costs 10 cents a gal to use a credit card. To pump the gas I am sure would would be a buck or more. I do know the state is looking out for the handicapped. If you have the plate or plastic placard and you ask they need to pump the gas, But I bet they don't check your oil.
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 10:54am |
Around here nobody helps the disabled pump gas because they are usually pulling two riding lawn mowers behind them and a weedeater headed to the next mowing job that they get paid cash for. They get all the help they don't need when they open there mailbox.
Edited by Kansas99 - 02 Aug 2021 at 10:55am
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 11:04am |
Kansas99 wrote:
There surely is a few but probably don't advertise it. Women over 70 would know, at least out here they would.
There's two in the county I live in, neither advertise it, one of them if not open no gas, the other has a cardtrol for 24hr gas. I have never seen a woman over 70 pump her own gas at the local station and several younger ones don't pump as well, I guess we're just backwards out here. The local phone co. never pumps there own gas only the station and the local fiberglass plant doesn't pump as well, company policy. I'm guessing there's no question what the gas went into and that the tires and oil are good to go. 2 cents a gal is probably cheap insurance for them.
Of course the 2 local trucking companies supply credit cards for fuel and it's surprising how many of there drivers drive diesel pickups. Once in a while a driver gets replaced do to really bad fuel mileage. |
Reminds me of this woman who came into the 'convenience' store, 2 clerks working, practically begging for help with oil because something was wrong, and they just shrugged their shoulders and said sorry, can't leave the counter.
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 2:04pm |
I have never seen the handicapper get gas pumped. No idea where it was discussed local, maybe read it with stuff in the envelope my wife's placarded comes in. If there are 2 employees and a person with papers asks they must pump it and thinking for self service price even but not sure of that part.
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 5:19pm |
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I’m sure there is something for handicapped, but I don’t know what and I can’t think of the last time I saw a store employee pumping gas. With only one person working a lot of the time and the till and snacks and stuff…. I don’t know how that’s supposed to work or gets ignored or what?
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 6:02pm |
No, I did not, NOR did I miss you being gone last week
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 6:06pm |
Tbone95 wrote:
Then what do you suppose the food will HAVE TO cost to cover that expense? |
A WHOLE LOT MORE than the Wendy's 4/$4 deal
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Posted: 02 Aug 2021 at 10:30pm |
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I love automation when I don't have to speak with someone who could care less if they could help me and half the time when they attempt to speak proper English it comes out as more of a grunt. Fast food is by far the worst. At least a robot won't spit on my food. Replace them all I say.
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Posted: 03 Aug 2021 at 3:25am |
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Should stores decide that automated self check be their only profitable way to sell products I will switch to online and avoid stores
Has already happened to malls.
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Posted: 03 Aug 2021 at 8:41am |
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When i stop by Wal Mart, there are 4 SELF CHECKS and probably 8 HELP CHECK OUTS.. Early in the am. The 4 SELF CHECKS have people checking out... and ONE of the HELP CHECK OUTS is open...7 closed... most people going thru the SELF.
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Posted: 03 Aug 2021 at 11:20am |
The 2 closest Walmart stores both say all self checkout by the end of the year. I don't know how they're going to handle alcohol sales? Must be someone will be wandering around checking, helping.
Can't wait for Meijer's to open. 25 mile drive will be well worth it.
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Posted: 03 Aug 2021 at 12:55pm |
Tbone95 wrote:
The 2 closest Walmart stores both say all self checkout by the end of the year. I don't know how they're going to handle alcohol sales? Must be someone will be wandering around checking, helping.
Can't wait for Meijer's to open. 25 mile drive will be well worth it. |
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