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FREEDGUY 
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 7:38pm |
I drove past a DQ this morning on my way to work this morning that had on their "marqee" full time employment at $13.50/hour, part time was $ 10/ hour  > how many $$ are you guys willing to spend for a "fast food" burger ??
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 7:40pm |
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Pay 50% more for help... Hire 50% Less workers... SELF ORDER... SELF PAY... next Robots will be making the food.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 7:45pm |
 steve(ill) wrote:
Pay 50% more for help... Hire 50% Less workers... SELF ORDER... SELF PAY... next Robots will be making the food. |
Well, your "self service" analogy has some merit, I for one will NOT stoop to that level though  , the "self ordering".
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 7:51pm |
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Now you see the problem with $15 minimum wage. And since you ask, what are YOU willing to pay?
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Lars(wi)
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 8:00pm |
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I for one, don’t consider DQ ‘fast’ food.
As for the wages, they now have to compete against the government paying the able bodied to stay home.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 8:07pm |
plummerscarin wrote:
Now you see the problem with $15 minimum wage. And since you ask, what are YOU willing to pay? |
For what ?? Food or wages ??
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 8:09pm |
Lars, there is NO such thing as "fast food" anymore at ANY venue   .
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 8:17pm |
And not to change the subject "much" , but I had the WORST tasting/$$$ fish sandwich last evening out of CULVERS , never again will I step foot on their doorstep  .
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 8:50pm |
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Seems like every "restaurant" in town, be it fast food or sit down, is interviewing and hiring on the spot. Several are advertising $14 to $15/hr pay
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 9:00pm |
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Just this morning , I drove past a DQ that had their pay scale for help wanted - $13.50/hr FT, $10/hr PT. Other than "management", what do you guys think is a fair wage for these types of restaurants ??
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 9:23pm |
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It’s up the employee, and the employer, on what is fair. It’s definitely not the governments business.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 9:24pm |
FAIR ??? What does that mean ?
If there are no workers available, you have to may MORE to get someone... SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
If i can train you to do a job in 15 minutes, your VALUE is slightly above a monkey.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 9:33pm |
But , even YOU, must admit that the cost of labor at a FF joint can only increase the $$ of a burger  !! How many "monkeys" have you trained recently ??
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 9:39pm |
FREEDGUY wrote:
... how many $$ are you guys willing to spend for a "fast food" burger ?? |
Nothing. I don't eat that s***
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Posted: 31 Jul 2021 at 10:42pm |
FREEDGUY wrote:
But , even YOU, must admit that the cost of labor at a FF joint can only increase the $$ of a burger !! How many "monkeys" have you trained recently ?? |
"the cost of labor at a FF joint can only increase the $$ of a burger"
WOW you live in reality? Maybe we just need a $50/hr minimum wage nation wide for anyone working over 2 seconds a day then we'll find out what everyone is willing to pay for a burger.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 12:49am |
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i don't eat that stuff either, they can charge what ever they want to.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 4:47am |
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 7:25am |
DiyDave wrote:
More of a certain someone's attempts to drag politics into this forum, not biting... |
Wish the Site Supers would just move these type posts to the Political section, do NOT belong here.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 8:17am |
Several mention not using self order kiosks or not using self checkouts at stores. I somewhat agree, but if you think back to when many of us were young, there was no self service gas stations. How many of us now even think twice about pumping our own gas? Times change, and increased wages leads to automation of many tasks, not just cashiers. It is a simple fact that once wages increase to a level that exceeds the cost of technology to replace those manual tasks they WILL be replaced. Look at factories and all aspects of business, many jobs have been automated. I hate to see jobs lost, but it will happen.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 8:29am |
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Before the lockdown, i use to take the two grandkids to McDonalds two times a week... Eat then play in the jungle gym area..... We would be there an hour... EVERY person under 40 years old would walk in, walk up to the kiosk ( two of them) and order / pay for their food... EVERY ONE... Only the "old people" (me) walked up to the counter and told the girl what we wanted.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 8:32am |
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I dont mind the self order thing, turn around and they are working on your order- fast and efficent
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 10:28am |
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Wife and I will entertain a Small Shop burger, even will partake of DQ as Currently have a $6 meal deal menu, that dies or price creeps up and will refrain from there as well as have of MickeyDs or any of the other established FF Shops. We routinely scan for Specials of our local shops, the Downtown Deli serves great low cost specials, employs the local school kids to get them a start at workforce participation and gain value lessons in listening to customers. The Rhineland 'Corner' has weekly specials and offerings for older adults, never see all too many youth in there.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 11:46am |
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@Greg (Hillsboro, OH) That is an excellent point my friend. I have been on a high horse about not using the self checkout at Wal Mart because "I don't work for Wal Mart". You're right, I don't give it a second thought about pumping my own gas. Probably because I have never lived in a time with full service gas stations. Definitely food for thought. Thanks.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 11:49am |
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@FREEDGUY; RE: CULVERS; I wasn't too impressed with Culvers. The food tasted pretty good (burger and waffle fries) but for what they charged, the portions seemed small. And they are a Pepsi place too. Yuck!
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 1:31pm |
FREEDGUY wrote:
steve(ill) wrote:
Pay 50% more for help... Hire 50% Less workers... SELF ORDER... SELF PAY... next Robots will be making the food. |
Well, your "self service" analogy has some merit, I for one will NOT stoop to that level though , the "self ordering".
lots of people said the same thing when full service gas stations started going to self serve! 
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 2:08pm |
And as wife and I shopped Wally World(I DESPISE but She MUST Do) this morning the number of customers checking self checkout was big, as did not want to wait on the TWO ONLY Checker registers, I waited. Gal came to us three times with "We have Self Check stations Open", I looked past her and stated yes you do then went back to waiting as did the FIVE customers behind us.
She stated the store was looking to eliminate the checker registers, explained to her politically correct that when that day occurs my money will go elsewhere. She wrote that down along with similar responses from the five behind us. Will spend 5% MORE at another store to NOT wait on myself, I pay the store a profit to perform those actions.
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 5:31pm |
RE: It is a simple fact that once wages increase to a level that exceeds the cost of technology to replace those manual tasks they WILL be replaced.
Greg I've wondered at times if you wont see wages go down in the future just to compete with technology? I don't know the future but at some point when most jobs are automated something would have to change?
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Posted: 01 Aug 2021 at 6:25pm |
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When general population no longer works and the Guv cannot feed them enough money to buy stuff supplied robotically as the inflation rate skyrockets then maybe someone will figure it out.
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