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    Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 12:20pm
I had this pop up when I was on Youtube this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlR_QVBDxps

It looks like Versatile will go back to red, black, and yellow for their equipment colors. At least that is what I got from the video.
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they have been red and black (dunno bout yeller) for years. they's made by the same company as a lot of others, just re-badged.
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Limited edition I think.

You can paint crap any color still the same inside.
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I wish AGCO would follow suit and give Gleaners white cabs and orange wheels.
But they won't...
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According to bil. limited production for there 50th anniversary.  Supposedly only 50 built and all sold but I have seen one coming up on an auction already.  He sells them so I think he knows but I may have got some of the info wrong.
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I'm curious why you think they are crap?
A Cummins engine and Funk transmission seems pretty reliable to me.
What problems have you seen with the tractors to give you that opinion?
They seem pretty popular here in ND. They have always had a reputation of being simpler then the other brands.
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I was glad to see they are keeping the colors. Last year you could order them that color. But l guess they have had such good response there going to stay the old color. I love it !!!!!
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Yea, they look sharp!
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Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

Limited edition I think.

You can paint crap any color still the same inside.
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I think the old colors are much better looking than the new ones were. They are very reliable tractors. Several around here with over 10k hours and still going strong. We have a 9682 that's turned to 460 hp and it has 6,000 hours on it,,, never had a tap turned on the engine, tranny or hydraulics. It has been a far better tractor than the two stingers we had before.
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"Legendary Limited Edition", sadly. 

Wish I could have one. 
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Originally posted by eighty nine eighty nine wrote:


Originally posted by victoryallis victoryallis wrote:

Limited edition I think.

You can paint crap any color still the same inside.
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I have owned 4 of them 875,936,9680, 2425. Not a bad one in the bunch. Ran the first 3 well over 6000 hrs. each & had a lot of life left in them.  Have about 3000 on the 2425.  Very reliable power & low repair costs. 


My bad I wasn't clear the true Versatiles may have been fine. I have been having issues with a product of the Buehler new age. Piss poor engineering and terrible to deal with on parts.
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Originally posted by KY poorboy KY poorboy wrote:

I think the old colors are much better looking than the new ones were.

x2!! 

I always wondered when I get to farming on my own, if I can't find a couple good 4W-305s, what would I get? I had always thought Case, but I guess if Versatiles are as good as you guys say, they might be in the running too! 

But...I've never seen a Versatile dealer in Oklahoma. Where do you guys get parts? Do you guys have dealerships close by? 


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Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:



Originally posted by KY poorboy KY poorboy wrote:

I think the old colors are much better looking than the new ones were.


x2!! 

I always wondered when I get to farming on my own, if I can't find a couple good 4W-305s, what would I get? I had always thought Case, but I guess if Versatiles are as good as you guys say, they might be in the running too! 

But...I've never seen a Versatile dealer in Oklahoma. Where do you guys get parts? Do you guys have dealerships close by? 


Ever heard of Livingston?
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Originally posted by Leesok Leesok wrote:

Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:



Originally posted by KY poorboy KY poorboy wrote:

I think the old colors are much better looking than the new ones were.


x2!! 

I always wondered when I get to farming on my own, if I can't find a couple good 4W-305s, what would I get? I had always thought Case, but I guess if Versatiles are as good as you guys say, they might be in the running too! 

But...I've never seen a Versatile dealer in Oklahoma. Where do you guys get parts? Do you guys have dealerships close by? 


Ever heard of Livingston?
Yes, but I'd never seen one on their lot. I didn't even know AGCO had Versatile, but I guess they do?
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A Russian company owns Buhler/Versatile, I suspect they ship them to the motherland because they are simple to repair.  I've wondered if the Versatile combines are made in Russia?


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Yes, Versatile combines are made in Russia, I don't know of any local dealers who will even try to sell them.
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I saw the combines in their video, and wondered what the heck that was all about. I do remember Versatile did build a pull type combine back in the 80's, but most stayed in Canada I'd imagine. Maybe they were outsourced then too? I really don't know. Worked on a lot of Versatile tractors back before the Buhler merge, and they were great, simple tractors. I left the dealership right before the 846/876/946/976 were replaced with the 9000 series. 
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Originally posted by JohnCO JohnCO wrote:


A Russian company owns Buhler/Versatile, I suspect they ship them to the motherland because they are simple to repair.  I've wondered if the Versatile combines are made in Russia?



And getting parts is like dealing with Stalin himself.
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In late 60s Versatile built a pull type combine and a little later a self propelled.  Have a friend who still has a self propelled in his yard, the dealer I worked for in late 60s sold a few of the pull types.  If I remember right they were a 42, that was the cylinder width and model number.  They had one interesting thing I remember, they used augers for clean grain and return elevators instead of chains.  Don't remember much else about them.
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i always liked the old paint scheme the best.      all the old versitiles around here are running not parked,   but dont see any new ones around 
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For Creston, out here there used to be three dealers- Deere, JI Case, and Ford. There were a lot of Case 4x4 tractors sold, but they all seem to be parked now. They still run the 2 wheel drive Cases (The white ones pre Case IH). There are tons of 4x4 Case tractors here, but I can't remember the time that I actually saw one in use. I see Deere 7520s still in use here, but not a single Case. I don't think I've ever seen a Versatile in person, though.
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According to the Versatile website, there are two dealers in Colorado, Leon Atkins in extreme NE corner of the state and Prospect Equipment, in Prospect Valley about 30 miles east of me.  I deal with them occasionally for tillage parts, have a good selection of plow parts for all brands, even AC.  There are a few newer Versatile tractors around here and if you include Ford 4 wheel drives, probably more then any other brand.  Not all that many 4x4's here anyway.  I'm pretty sure I have the only Allis 4x4 (7580) in the county.
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The red,yellow and black paint scheme is for the 50th anniversary. I own 3 Versatiles and they are great tractors. Granted mine are older .... 555 and two 850's but part availability and easy to work on is awesome to me
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Prospect is where I lived, and worked years ago. I missed all the new D-6 teething pains. When I started there I got to hear lots of stories about windows falling out, but don't really remember what the other problems were. I think it was kind of a big deal for them though, since they sold some of the very first 956's off the line, and they were for Kalcevic Farms who bought 17. So, for a small place like prospect to handle lots of warranty problems, they stayed busy lol! I was still in high school when that all went down. I remember seeing all the new tractors in and out of there, as well as all the 895's they traded in for the 956's. I don't imagine there's many Versatiles over in Boulder, but you go out east into wheat country, they used to be everywhere. We had a few customer buy 555's at sales, or what not, and use it like an 850, and have all sorts of problems. The 555 is made to pull a 12 row cultivator, or a grain cart, or planter. They are a row crop tractor, that people would use like a heavy tillage tractor because it's a Versatile. Well, the 500/555 is a very different tractor. Small inboard planetary final drives with adjustable bar axles, a 15 speed transmission with live pto through it, and a wet clutch pack. And of course, we can't forget to mention the great 555 turbo engine! lol!
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My two 850's are the primary tillage tractors...hard to beat the 855 Cummins and the transmissions seem to be bullet proof. Our 555 pulls our 16 row planter and the grain cart. The 555 is like the 7580, too many guys treated them like a 300hp tractor and they just weren't built to pull like that....we had a 7580 and I would rather have my 555 series 3 versatile. 555 Cummins gets a bad wrap but if you don't abuse them and get them hot they are fine and super efficient on fuel
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I drove past Kelcevic's last July and it looks like they have gone to CaseIH.  Saw some combines and CIH 4 wheel tractors on grain carts.  I remember the ad in the Farm Journal of the Versatile's all in a row.
There was one new one here about 8 years ago but he retired or moved east.  The place is being farmed with a Blue one and a 895 maybe, belongs to Keith Bateman.

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I believe that I saw on Facebook here recently that Versatile made an announcement that they are officially changing their color scheme to the old colors. I'll see if I can find that somewhere. As for Versatiles around here, there aren't any...of any age. There are 2 dealers within an hour of here, but I never have seen one working.

EDIT: I can't find it directly on their website, but it is on their Facebook page, Versatile-Ag. The way I read it says that the old colors are here to stay.

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In my early farming days had a Versatile 5000 combine. It was a simple machine with a hydro transmission and a gas engine. Very simple machine with all off the shelf belts and bearings. Parts were cheap and there wasn't a bearing on whole machine that took more than an hour to replace.  I particularlly remember the 2 massey 44 mufflers it used a unique sound and red hot in the dark. If they would have made this combine bigger and put in a diesel engine it would have been around for a long time.
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