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jaybmiller 
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Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:45pm |
OK.. does ANYONE actually put 6-12 inches of raw,unknown species, wood chips on their veggie garden before they plant ?
Jay
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Dakota Dave
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Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 1:58pm |
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No don't put any wood chips on your garden. Every few years I add a couple inches of well composted cow manure on mine. I get from the back of the pile at the farm it's been composting for 15 to 20 years. Pine cedar and anything that has been chemically threaded will kill your garden. Elm basswood and other bug infested non treated hard woods bring insects into your garden.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:08pm |
Never heard of adding wood chips and that depth just doesnt sound right??? You going to try this? Regards, Chris
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:27pm |
Not a recommended practice to add any kind of "RAW" wood chips to a vegetable garden. Old decayed by composting wood chips or wood shavings to amend vegetable garden soil is OK. I would not even recommend using "RAW" wood chips or shavings as a mulch.
Edited by Ken in Texas - 13 Dec 2018 at 2:29pm
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Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 2:35pm |
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The reason is it sucks up the nitrogen to decompose it.
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Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 5:54pm |
I'd mix the wood chips, with some manure, and compost them fer a coupla years, then put down, as compost...
Raw wood chips release wood alcohol, as they decompose, not the best stuff, for any living plant. If the chips come from woodcutters, they may also contain a crapload of poison ivy seed, too...  |
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Posted: 13 Dec 2018 at 8:26pm |
Put a thick layer around my grape plants, this is closest to have this type of mulch in my garden. Beware if it is unknown type, picked up some free mulch from the local county conservation pile a few years ago. A year later, had small trees growing in the mulch and still do several years later. They look like poplars. The landfill has ground up construction lumber for use as animal bedding. I use that now around my landscaping plants, a little white/brite the 1st year but weathers to a more muted color. No worries about some other plants taking root with this stuff.
On a interesting side note, the guy at the landfill said they don't allow walnut wood in the pile to be ground up. guess it does something to horses.
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Posted: 14 Dec 2018 at 4:32am |
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I sure would like to get into that pile of cow doo doo that Dave has.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 14 Dec 2018 at 9:58am |
re: walnut... I KNOW black walnut trees have a poison in them that'll kill tomatoes, peppers and a few other great veggies.
neighbour's silly kid( 35+) saw on the net 'using fresh mulch for veggie garden' and ,well, it HAS to be TRUE. This kid has never,ever had a garden and convinced his mom to spread this unknown species mulch onto her 1/2 acre garden.No surprise to me her garden is TERRIBLE. very low yield, stunted growth, etc. Soil here is some of the best in Ontario BTW.
I've told her do NOT put the mulch on...even brought her 20 yards of horse puck/bedding well rotted...COMPOST ( black gold to me...)
I posted the question to see what you guys thought about it... more comments the better ! thanks
Jay
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Posted: 14 Dec 2018 at 11:52am |
NO fresh chips in the gardens, unless you don't want to grow anything!---why on earth would anyone put that much in the garden at one time?
You can compost them down, then plow them in and it's ok, but takes several years to break them down. I have some here that I have turned/worked/mixed for 5 years and they are just now ready to use.
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Posted: 15 Dec 2018 at 5:31am |
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I put four big straight truck loads of blue spruce chips on a shaley head in a field about 4 inches thick and it stunted the corn and beans for the first two years. Compost it in the fence line first.
Edited by nella(Pa) - 15 Dec 2018 at 5:32am
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Posted: 15 Dec 2018 at 6:26am |
yeah, I can't win this one either... son has momma convinced whatever he says is true,even though we KNOW better. Come to think of it, he is selfemployed painter.hmmm...
She's a GREAT neighbour, scratch bakes everything, very,very hard worker,breaks her back helping her 3 kids who don't even do the dishes when they have sunday dinner...EVERY sunday..The very least they should do is buy her a dishwasher. Oh well.. I've 'turned' the 20yds of 'stable sweepings' a few times and it's 1/2 cooked, should be ready as topdressing come late Spring.
guess I'll quit offering what I know to those I care about and just hide in the garage ?
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Posted: 16 Dec 2018 at 11:19am |
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guess i'm the lone one here...the old lady....ooooops….I mean the loving wife has bad hands, and we add wood shavings to our garden beds whether it be veggies, flowers. we don't pour it on thick, but do mix it in with the soil, makes it soak up and keep the beds more moist and keep moisture longer, makes it easier for her to either hand cultivate or pull any weeds that spring up. we have also piled wood chips around our bushes and young trees to keep the weeds and grass from growing up close around the trunks. that works well and it's easier to mow around them. as for the walnut shavings, it will kill a horse. wipe a handful of walnut wood over a horses coat and it'll be dead by morning, it's that bad! it won't hurt pigs or cows, but horses it will kill.
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Posted: 16 Dec 2018 at 10:03pm |
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I' m worse than you Shameless. In our garden, I lay down black plastic. I use whatever to weight it down. Take a razor knife and cut a 6" "T" where we want a plant to go in. Rabbits and deer don't like the sound or feel that the plastic makes when they step on it. Tomatoes never get blight because their lower leafs can't come in contact with the ground. I only hand till each spot for a plant and add some cow or horse to the bottom of the hole. It works good and no weeds.
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Posted: 17 Dec 2018 at 11:20am |
What works in one area , wont work in all areas. We tried the plastic, couldn'd hold it down in our winds we have here! We only have one fence post between us and the North Pole!!!! Thanks; ac fleet
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