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DMiller 
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 Topic: Vacuum quit!!
Posted: 16 Aug 2023 at 5:35am |
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As we built this house I tried to make easier to keep clean. Bought a whole house Beam Vac system. Hangs in garage so minimal noise, does not spread dust in house and could drag a marble thru a garden hose in a heartbeat. Four floor hose ports, a dustpan head in Kitchen a second hose for downstairs and a port in garage with hose for cars. All been awesome since 2015.
So went to use it, nada, start trouble shooting and get down to the Control Card Package. How bad could it be? $150 just for control card package but included ship to house.
Wife was in WM and whining of expenses for that, looked at basic vacuums about fainted at prices. And these have as much electronics as that Beam unit. What a joke as is Just A Vacuum.. Toaster died last month, it also had a circuit card, just Why?? Programmed failure??
I would NOT be surprised if Brooms are now electronics equipped.
Edited by DMiller - 16 Aug 2023 at 5:37am
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 16 Aug 2023 at 5:59am |
dang I keep making filters for my 1986 HOOVER CV system that wife can't destroy. Simple motor, relay,tin can...keeps working..... 'They' put 'computers' into everything to sell you on 'features' you don't need and say it's 'high tech', so HAS to be better than previous models, right ? I can buy an alli-in-one 'computer chip' with WIFI, camera, memory, control stuff ( think guts of a pricey 'trail camera' for $3 includes free shipping to Canada,eh !! And that's BEFORE any kind of quantity discount, which for electronics is usually really,really good.
so really it costs them NOTHING to put the 'fancy krap' in to get you to buy the 'latest and greatest'..
same hold true for cell phones and pickups.....
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DMiller
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Posted: 16 Aug 2023 at 6:54am |
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Every machine Jay, every one these days.
My old KW has ONE electronics box besides the engine ecm, that being the ABS module, same truck two years newer, 7 modules and a spaghetti factory of ever decreasing mil diameter highly stress prone wiring. Newer still have 12. My wife’s 2017 Exploder has Nine modules interacting to control everything, is stupidity in action as harnesses are insane in volume yet again tiny gauge where failure prone.
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DMiller
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Posted: 16 Aug 2023 at 6:56am |
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One of the more scary aspects of recent note, Chipped Humans to pay for purchases. No way in Hecky Durn ever gonna do that to me.
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Posted: 16 Aug 2023 at 10:25am |
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My 79 Astro doesn't have a computer chip 1 in its entire electrical system. If anything happens electrically just turn in the screw on top of the PT pump and drift downhill and you're on your way. Same for my 50 Dodge car and truck simple dependable electrical system. My 89 P/U might have an ECM, however you can easily hotwire it and it will get you home without the ECM in play. Everyone has brought into the myth that computer as so great for every little thing, not really. Last year the compressor in my 20 year old dehumidfier died an nothing can be had anymore that just has a simple humidstat and an on/off switch. There were some models that had Bluetooth enabling, what a gimmic for a higher price. The advertising business has done its job to convince people that they just NEED to have and/or DESERVE to have anything and everything that's the latest and greatest.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
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Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 1:12pm |
There's a significant amount of 'over-technologification' that is put into all things consumer. At one time, the expense of doing this was very high, but nowdays, the cost of microprocessors is dirt cheap, and all the thinking complexity can be done with lines of code, rather than lots of wires and electrical contacts. Once a controller is designed and tested, manufacturing volume results in a considerably less expensive finished cost.
Of course, they feel that having a maddening array of gadget-features is somehow more desireable than something simple... and the 'insulated' nature of programmers coding Both in they're secluded work conditions AND the 'unsupervised' code product means that (aside from functional testing of the 'documented' features) they're basically uncontrolled in their craft, and thus, able to be entirely unscrupulous in what they've done.
This opens a huge door into bloat and nefarious function.
There will eventually come a time, when the combination of 'KNOWN' bloat features (like active stability control, self-sensing cruise control, 'collision avoidance' and 'hands-free' steering in cars) will result in products that become the key participant in serious accidents that, had those 'features' been not active, the human operator would have been able to prevent, however, the gadgetry being given a higher-priority (by some programmer), placed the user in a circumstance where they could not intervene to STOP such a problem, which will then become a situation where the MANUFACTURER is now at fault in an accident, as the MACHINE took control from, and thus accepted liability for, the result.
Now, your vacuum cleaner won't pose this sort of a situation, but that control board was probably killed by either vibration, static electricity, or having been made of counterfeit (and thus, very misrepresented quality) components... capacitors and semiconductors mostly. Static electricity ravages vacuum cleaners, especially whole-house, as they have long plastic tubes which air must flow through, and that generates lots of static.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 2:06pm |
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yeah, well it still SUCKS his vacuum cleaner doesn't........
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DMiller
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Posted: 20 Aug 2023 at 4:30pm |
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Is back to sucking!! Parts received next day, Local STL Company sent same day UPS. Are subtle other methods to derive Low Voltage pilot signals and direct to Motor Start, just not as Proprietary.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2023 at 4:36pm |
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I used to know a gal like that!
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Clay
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Posted: 24 Aug 2023 at 4:51pm |
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Put an OU Sooners sticker on the vacuum. It will suck again.
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