Unstyled WC paint scheme

Fair enough,  but all the other pics in the brochure show black as well:

Edited by jpessek - 20 Feb 2017 at 12:50pm

oldorangeiron wrote: ALL SPOKE WHEELS WERE BLACK ...they were provided by French and Hecht. Allis bought them with tires already installed. The U, UC, WF, and WC tractor wheels were always black..until they went to cast centers. ANYTHING SPOKE WAS BLACK WHEN NEW. (very early WC were Green) P.O. #1 for entire remainder of tractor

They were NOT ALL black. Some were green and most were black from F&H. However, Allis painted spoke rims Orange, at least some of them.
 When I got my 35 WC from the neighbor, who was the original owner, I found orange paint on the inside of the rear wheel hubs. The tractor had NEVER been repainted.
 Some tractors came from the DEALER with black spoke wheels because Black was the color F&H painted them. Tractors from West Allis were painted Orange.
 If a dealer had a steel wheeled tractor on the lot and a buyer wanted  rubber tires, the F&H rims could have been shipped to the dealer from F&H and be Black.
 I would venture to say any change of wheels at the dealer  would have put Black rims on the tractor.

CrestonM wrote: jpessek wrote: Fair enough,  but all the other pics in the brochure show black as well: download the complete brochure: http://www.mediafire.com/file/h5t56pq3m0z2fgi/1938wc.pdf EDIT: 37 was still black judging by the mecum auction original paint wc: Just trying to digest the information and figure out what to believe....in the first pic, the wheels and fender are the same shade of gray, leading me to believe they are the same color? Anyone else have this feeling? I agree, it kinda looks black, but so does the fender, steering column, etc.  In the 2nd photo....I thought the 37s came with dish rims on the rear, like in the first pic, not spokes like the earlier ones. Again, I'm not arguing or being disrespectful, I'm just trying to weigh things out and interpret them the best I can.

oldorangeiron wrote: In the case of Charlie Tuckers tractor, I would assume the orange he found on the back of the hub was due to installing a BLACK wheel on wet ORANGE paint at the factory!!

Hard to see in my pic but mine matches that one, my serial number is 970:

Hello guys this is a very good post I have learned alot! My dad brothers and I really search hard for nice clean original tractors and have seen the wc's a few different ways. We have a 37 with the pressed steel and they seem to be black along with the front 6 bolt rims or round spokes. They have been black on most tractors. We do have a very clean original 37 and it has the smaller steering wheel like they had and it is all orange. We also have a 38 model with cast centers and they are orange with galvanized rims and it has black 6 bolt rs in the front. I will see if I can post a photo of our 37 and 38. Not sure if this helps but I know that these haven't had any paint!

Great post
Andy

ecclap wrote: jpessek wrote: Hard to see in my pic but mine matches that one, my serial number is 970: Nice picture.  Is that the typical HC111 hub?