UNFREEZE STUCK 7060 ENGINE

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   HELLO  
 NEED INFO ON HOW TO FREE UP A STUCK 7060 ENGINE. 
   HERE IS A LITTLE BACK GROUND. THIS TRACTOR WAS RUNNING 10 YEARS AGO, IT STARTED RUNNING HOT SO THE GUY PARKED IT. IT HAS BEEN PARKED EVER SINCE. I CHECKED THE OIL, NO WATER IN THE BASE,AND THE OIL HAS NO BURNT SMELL TO IT. 
     MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF I GET IT TO TURN OVER, AND THERE IS ANY RUST (LIGHT SURFACE) ACCUMULATED ON THE SLEEVES, WOULD IT DO DAMAGE TO THE RINGS. IF I GET OIL IN THE BORE WOULD THAT HELP? OR  SHOULD I JUST PULL THE HEAD AND CLEAN THE SLEEVES AND LIGHTLY TAP ON THE PISTONS WITH A BLOCK OF WOOD WHILE TRYING TO TURN THE ENGINE OVER.      THANKS FOR ANY HELP

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SIMPLICITY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 19 Sep 2009 Location: ERATH LOUISIANA Points: 502	Post Options Post Reply Quote SIMPLICITY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: UNFREEZE STUCK 7060 ENGINE Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 7:29pm
	HELLO NEED INFO ON HOW TO FREE UP A STUCK 7060 ENGINE. HERE IS A LITTLE BACK GROUND. THIS TRACTOR WAS RUNNING 10 YEARS AGO, IT STARTED RUNNING HOT SO THE GUY PARKED IT. IT HAS BEEN PARKED EVER SINCE. I CHECKED THE OIL, NO WATER IN THE BASE,AND THE OIL HAS NO BURNT SMELL TO IT. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS IF I GET IT TO TURN OVER, AND THERE IS ANY RUST (LIGHT SURFACE) ACCUMULATED ON THE SLEEVES, WOULD IT DO DAMAGE TO THE RINGS. IF I GET OIL IN THE BORE WOULD THAT HELP? OR SHOULD I JUST PULL THE HEAD AND CLEAN THE SLEEVES AND LIGHTLY TAP ON THE PISTONS WITH A BLOCK OF WOOD WHILE TRYING TO TURN THE ENGINE OVER. THANKS FOR ANY HELP

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Orange Blood Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 29 Nov 2010 Location: ColoradoSprings Points: 4053	Post Options Post Reply Quote Orange Blood Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 7:35pm
	More than likely when shutdown an exhaust valve was open, and water got in through the muffler, the drain hole in the turbo elbow plugs easily. If that is the case figure on a tear down. I hate to say it, but there is now other real way to know for sure, I would hate for you to get her running with crud in one hole, only to break something or push something out the side. If you had a small borescope you might be able to do some more investigation. Start by pulling the rocker arms and see if all the valves come fully closed, if they do, then pull the exhaust manifold, see what the ports look like, this will give you a lot more information without getting too deep into the project.
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Denis in MI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Norvell, MI Points: 832	Post Options Post Reply Quote Denis in MI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 8:01pm
	Pull the head and find out what is going on in their, if you are going to try and fix it any way
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson, WI Points: 1826	Post Options Post Reply Quote ChuckLuedtkeSEWI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 8:05pm
	I picked up a WD that was stuck and got it free by putting ATF and acetone mixed up into the cylinders. took a couple weeks of letting it drain past the rings to free it up. I did pull the head off to see how bad it was and there was little to no rust anywhere, so just the rings were a little seized up from sitting. If it were me, for the cost of a head gasket, I would take the time and pull the head and see what you find. Will give you insight into how bad it is and how wore everything is by the ridge in the sleeves. You may open a can of worms, or you may be suprised. Every time I get a stuck engine, I take the head off and look inside. It's so easy to do and doesn't take much time to get it apart, and then you know what you're in for.
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Joe(TX) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1682	Post Options Post Reply Quote Joe(TX) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 8:31pm
	If it started running hot, there is a possibility of something else wrong with the engine. If there is rust in the cylinders it would more likely score the cylinders and the piston. The rings would be the smallest of the concern. They are expendable items.

randy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 1188	Post Options Post Reply Quote randy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 7:15am
	Check the radiator to see if its clean. That might tell you why i ran hot. Bought a 8070 last year that had been running hot and when they took off the head they found one sleeve bad and when they took engine apart found one piston was missing rings and part of the piston was gone, all because the radiator was pluged. It looked like someone had washed it with a garden hose for years! Rings had got so hot that you could bend them around backwards!
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Adam Stratton Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: SW MO Points: 1363	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adam Stratton Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 7:55am
	I have taken the chance with breaking loose smaller motors without taking off the head before and gotten lucky more than I have gotten hurt. Something as big as a 7060 I agree that you should pull the head and see what you've got. I bought a stuck 7060 this summer and was able to get it to turn backward with a crowbar to the flywheel, but it wouldnt go all the way around. When I took the head off, I couldnt believe what I saw. 5 cylinders looked brand new (but several of those pistons had stuck rings when I took them down to inspect) but one cylinder was absolutely junk. It looked like it had been lying in the fertilizer pile of the salt plant. When I replaced it with a good usable extra I had, it turned into a really good tractor, but I would have ruined a lot if I hadnt pulled the head. Good luck!