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Steve in NJ 
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 Topic: Briggs Vanguard
Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 7:44pm |
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I've been lookin' around for an engine to stuff in my 716H Hotrod rider other than the norm. I happen to come across a guy that has a Briggs Vanguard 16HP engine for sale. Just curious if that engine would fit in the 716H without to many mods. I notice the oil filter on the side. Not sure if I have the room or not for that monster. Sure would look pretty damn cool tho sittin' in there. Hate to cut the frame, but I could do a couple small mods to the frame if neccessary. Also I probably could install a remote oil filter if the filter is in the way. Anybody try this yet with success? Just thinkin' out loud here....
Steve@B&B
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HudCo
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Posted: 08 Nov 2014 at 10:48pm |
measure from bottom of base to center of crank the vangaurd my have to be raised up just a little match the drive will try to take minet tommrow and look up both dimensions
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 12:20am |
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Found dimensions on the internet on an 18HP VanGuard. I would imagine its the same size as a 16HP. According to the company selling them the dimensions are 20"H, 12.3 deep (less the shaft) & 16.1 wide. I'll have to stick a ruler on the frame. I would imagine the 16.1 is up at the valve covers. What I could use is the measurement of the engines base.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 6:11am |
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Steve, I just put my B&S VG 16HP twin into a mid 90's Cub Cadet(aka MTD) and needed 1" tall spacers to get the pulleys to lineup correctly.For some silly reason I had TWO sets of these spacers on the shelf! Threw the conrod of the original 16HP single that was in the Cub.THAT must be common as I have 5,er six now, busted engines on the shelf without the $80 rods in them and 'inspection windows' in the block walls.
The twin is a sweet sounding ,quiet engine.
NOTE: Vanguards(mine did) have a split metal 'sleeve' IN the cyl. head of the exhaust port. I had to pull it out to get a 'normal'(1") exhaust system to fit and seal.
Jay
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HudCo
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Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 11:51am |
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could not find k enigine spec for some reason but the vangaurdbase to top of air cleaner 17.235" 16"wide valve covers 5.248" base to centerline of crank 8.071" center of crank to outside of oil filter 6.350 center of crank to out side of starter
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Lee (MN)
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Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 12:12pm |
It will fit, I did my 912 15 years ago. I did have to raise it up, machined an adapter for the driveshaft, and change the ignition switch to a magneto type as the Koehler was battery ignition. I did a remote mount oil filter, B&S has a kit for this, or if you can find a parts guy that is willing to look there is several options for the filter base, you may find one that will work. All that aside, a fantastic engine, very smooth running, excellent starter in the cold, and more fuel efficient. A huge step up from the one cyl. turd  . Lee 
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 09 Nov 2014 at 9:12pm |
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Thanks guys for all the help and imput!! Looks like I'll haveta' slide down and see this dude with the VG engine. Hey Jay, maybe you should take a ride down the the glass shop and have the glass guy make a window for all those engines wit' the hole in the sides! LMAO!!
Sounds like this could be a pretty cool transplant!
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