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   Allis dave  
   
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     Topic: Agco Persian OrangePosted: 26 Jul 2016 at 7:14am  | 
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   There is a paint code article in the knowledgebase. I believe it goes through most of the color codes fro the various paint manufacturers.  
   
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     Posted: 26 Jul 2016 at 7:13am | 
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   Thanks, I have seen about ten shades of Allis #1 but nothing seems the same shade as the paint on my fuel tank. I am sure it has faded somewhat but it appears to be more yellowish orange.
    
   
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     Posted: 26 Jul 2016 at 6:34am | 
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   I haven't used any Agco orange yet but I plan to soon. I painted some Oliver parts for a guy last winter and he brought me some Agco paint. It was some of the best paint I have ever used. It covered fast and sprayed easy and layed down smooth without much effort.JP
    
   
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     Posted: 24 Jul 2016 at 8:14pm | 
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   Persian orange #1 in a quart is Agco #79021641. My book does not show a rattle can #. I think its available in spray cans. Ryan
    
   
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     Posted: 24 Jul 2016 at 1:29pm | 
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   so did i miss some where ?   what is the agco pn. for persian orange #1 in rattle can and quart , gallon ? 
    
   
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     Posted: 24 Jul 2016 at 1:13pm | 
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   I know this is an old thread but what is the current consensus on Persian orange number one? My local Agco dealer is only selling Kabota and mahindra tractors and parts so I gotta go elsewhere.
    
   
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     Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 8:39pm | 
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   The po1 cost more at my dealer the last time I checked but that has been awhile ago. My dealer says they try to order all their paint once a year because the shipping cost on a single gallon or a case of 4 quarts of paint is almost as much as the paint.
    
   
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     Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 7:09pm | 
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    Deere paint is also made by Valspar. Its excellent paint. Interstingly enough, our "classic green" is $11/spray can and regular green is $9.95. Yellow pigment shouldn't be too expensive, our yellow paint is around $20/quart. I realize that reds and oranges are more expensive to produce but they are making a literal killing on that paint. I bought several 1 quart cans of Agco corporate orange for $16 each at list price in 2005. Edited by ACmowerguy - 28 Nov 2012 at 7:10pm  | 
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     Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 1:19pm | 
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   I guess I'm doing o.k. then, paid 12 for spray bomb, 60 for the quart for Persian. Don't know why there is such a difference between regions/dealers? Trev.
    
   
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     Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 12:01pm | 
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   PO#1 has more yellow pigmint in the paint. Bright colors cost more.
    
   
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     Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 11:53am | 
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   I cannot figure out WHY there should be a difference in the cost of the 1 vs 2?  Does NOT make sense!
    
   
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     Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 11:42am | 
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   Bought a spray can of PO#1, at Agco, this last summer, for all most $25 a can, and a can of PO#2 for $12 a can. Partsman said quarts of PO#1 was $90, and #2 was $25. 
   
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     Posted: 27 Nov 2012 at 8:53am | 
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   Ted I'll look on my bill for the part number. They don't list a hardener, but they do have a thinner on the shelf. I'm not thinning, I use a graco 4500 hvlp machine to paint with, it"ll blow the paint on unthinned. Cuts down on the runs and also thinner  in the air. Its the isocyinates that are especially dangerous, the root being cyanide. Don't want that stuff in your lungs! I don't imagine they used hardener in 1950 when this thing was painted I think it will last a while for me, and I agree, Ive "custom" mixed paint before and ended up with a disaster. I don't mix anything in paint that is not on a spec sheet, I don't know enough about paint formulas to play with that. Trev.
    
   
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     Posted: 27 Nov 2012 at 8:22am | 
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   Also, spend the money on good paint. It really isnt worth it to me to do all the work and then cover it in sub par materials. If I paint something, I sure would like it to last.
    
   
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     Posted: 27 Nov 2012 at 8:21am | 
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   Dont add anything that isnt recommended on the tech sheet from the manufacturer of the paint. Hardner will help with stone ships a bit and speed the dry time some. It will not affect the over all look or finish. 
    
   
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     Posted: 27 Nov 2012 at 5:45am | 
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   Trev, what is the AGCO # for Persian #1? 
   
  The price gouge? Because they can and I am guessing it is because more people are restoring D series tractors. Hence the 'supply and demand' price. Just my $0.02  | 
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     Posted: 27 Nov 2012 at 5:30am | 
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   I was always told that hardener makes the paint job stand up to scuffs better but will chip easier. I've also always heard that it's the hardener that is the most deadly ingredient, cancer wise, in paint as far as breathing it and is bad bad even if it finds the tiniest leak around your mask and I was told that most common canister masks won't filter it out properly. Just what I've been told in the past.  
   
  BTW can you ad linseed oil to get a good shine. Never tried it but heard you can. Is this true for modern paints today? 
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     Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 11:49pm | 
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   I add hardener to the agco paint, the purpose is not only to make the paint look more shiny, it also makes the finish more durable. I have used it without in the past and you can really tell the difference in the end result. 
    
   
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     Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 9:49pm | 
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      Who makes AGCO's paint ???
    
   
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     Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 9:49pm | 
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PO #2 is close to twice the price of PO #1 at our Agco dealer.. Agco brand Corporate Orange is also much cheaper... Why the expensive price for PO #2?
    
   
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     Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 9:42pm | 
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    i was always told that hardener will give paint a beter shine and add durability  | 
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     Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 9:36pm | 
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   PO #1 is around $80 a quart from our AGCO dealer.
    
   
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     Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 9:33pm | 
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   What the heck? I'm gonna be back at the dealer on Wednesday to pick up a 1600rpm gov spring/plunger for my WD. I'm gonna price the Persian 2 in the quart to see what it is, I don't know why it would be a third more? ITS INVESTIGATION TIME! Trev.
    
   
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     Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 9:05pm | 
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   Yes Dennis, I got a quart sitting right next to me. Part#79014785. I think I paid almost $90.00++ a month ago. Question, why is PO#1 so cheap compared to PO#2 when bought from Agco?? Ryan
    
   
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     Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 8:57pm | 
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   I painted Dad's WD45 with AGCO (AC back then) PO2 in 1980 and you can touch it up with an AGCO spray can of PO2 and it's still a perfect match. This has been a working tractor and it still cleans up nice. It's the only paint I use on my ACs. I've never used hardener in any paint. 
    
   
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Trevman, Thank you for posting your thoughts on the AGCO paint. I was at the local AGCO dealer to pick up some parts for the D17 last week and while they were fetching parts for me I was looking at that paint on the shelf. I was wondering if it was any good.  
   
  Valspar quit making their restoration series paint so I was curious about the AGCO paint.  The paint I was looking at was persion #1......... I plan on starting my D17 III restoration next year finally!   Does AGCO carry the correct color for the Series III does anybody know off hand?  I guess that would be Persian #2 
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