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Draining Block to Prevent Freezing

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    Posted: 28 Dec 2011 at 7:49pm
Question: if I have drained the rad .....plus let the block drain dry out of the drain hole on the side of the block, am I safe from freezing and splitting the block??
 
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What tractor are you doing this on?  
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Should be. The only problem with that is you have steel and cast exposed to air so things can rust. A lot of people did it for years before anti-freze was readily available.
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  HAVE SEEN BLOCKS CRACK EVEN WHEN DRAINED WITH MOISTURE IN IN PARTINGS
   OF CASTINGS WHEN MOLDED  WATER IN OIL IN SPRING IS GOOD POLICY TO USE ANTI -FREEZE   MY 2 CENTS
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Anti freeze is the best way to store it, cheap insurance.
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Draining the rad leaves some coolant left in the block.  It is possible for those places to freeze and crack.  Use 50/50 antifreeze and water and you should not have any problems.
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Drain it hot  or warm, watch getting burned.  Did it for years on WD,s and Farmall H's.

 I try to keep anti-freeze in them.  Get in a rush and forget one time and freezes  or overheats , 50/50 is a good mix. Test ever year around now, right before the real cold comes. We try to use old filtered anti-freeze  mixed with new, anything that is too dirty or bad we add to the Cal-water for the tires, and replace with cleaner mix.

 Just took the head of a Wd that was never off, looked ok for 60 years  old. Boy they made a good engine. Dress it and checked for troubles a bolted on one that had a cracked head.  Water past the weather head, 2 & 3 cylinders rusted on the tractor it came off of.
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Thanks for the information. The engine is a 262 six cylinder Buda in a WD-45 tractor that I am restoring.
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The other thing... sometimes there's enough sediment build-up down near the bottom of the block that it'll trap a little moisture.  oftentimes, the moisture will have enough 'move room' so that it won't put stress on the castings, but not guaranteed that it won't break something internally... so draining is a good precaution, but better to drain it, then fill it with anti-freeze mix.
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I let a UC block freeze up and bust once when I thought I had it drained. When I tore it down it had enough sediment in the water jacket that it cracked the block behind the carb where they are thin. After all the work and money it makes a couple gallon of antifreeze look real cheap. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 79fordblake Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Dec 2011 at 12:34pm
I have alot of projects at my house...one tractor I drain the water out of....rad leaks bad....I dont have the spare money to buy a new 400 buck rad when I need to spend money on things that are way more important. Just gotta do what ya gotta do.
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Picked up a couple jugs of antifreeze. Thanks for the good advise. I am slow at finishing my projects due to kids sports etc... definitely don't want to start over on this one as its almost done.
 
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