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Are some years model B's better than others?
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    Posted: 04 May 2011 at 7:41pm
I accidentally posted this in the wrong place, so I'm re-posting it here to get more response.....I hope.
 
I have become interested in getting an A-C B. I've been looking at a lot of info & it has become apparent that the 1939 B is more desireable (at least around here) for some reason. Is a 1939 really the best production year to look for? What's that reason?
Is there really much difference between the different years? What should I look for in an A-C B, possible problems to look out for, etc when looking at a prospective purchase?

Lot's of questions, but I appreciate any help.
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Al
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I prefer the later years with a PTO, HYD, foot brakes, and electric start. Hand cranking is a pain. 1940 and later. Most rare and desireable is SN 1-97
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Look out for worn splines (rear axel) and rear wheels. Expensive to fix.
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Depends on your preference. I prefer a B with a CE engine. It's got a bit more horses under the hood and the ones with the CE engines usually have electric start and sometimes lights, which are more useful then you think.
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1939 was the year for the highest production of the B with almost 22,000 built. The most desirable collector B, I would say would be the 1937 Waukesha because of the low numbers produced.
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I would rather have a later one with hydrolics, PTO, electric start, and foot brakes like said above I dont see a reason to want a early one without those options "unless it was just for show" but thats just my opinion.
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Here's one that's for sale, not too far from me. I haven't called about it yet. Any Idea what year it may be & what it might be worth?
allis-chalmer B tractor in excellent condition, everything on this tractor works great(lights,gauges, pto, hydro. lift and remote). Two new back tires.
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I agree with those above.  Really the only difference in the B tractors was (1) the early ones with the waukesha engine (very rare) (2) the later ones after 1942 - I think - that had foot brakes and electric,  Other than that they are basically all the same.  Even the older ones with the smaller engines have usually been rebuilt with the larger sleeves.  Also, Hydrallics can be attached to just about any B. 
Good tractor.  My favorate.
Good Luck!
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the one in the photo above appears to have an adjustable front axle. MOst had the wishbone front end. The adjustable would be worth a few bucks more. Also appears to be painted. THat might mean the motor / rear were rebuilt... maybe. If rebuilt, the price is about $2000.  If just paint covering an old tractor, then $1000. if the tires are good and it runs decent.
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Does that B in the pic have 5 bolt rear hubs? It looks like it but I can't see it that well.
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Looks like 5 bolt rear hubs to me. That is desireable and makes it a late model.
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Having good rear tires is a big plus. Tires just keep getting higher and higher priced.
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I don't think it's a late B because the starter switch is still on the bottom. They did have some 5 bolt adapter hubs that fit over the splines. I have a late '39 with an adjustable wide front and it has a 5 bolt adapter on one side. I'd like to find another one and a 5 bolt center to fit it. The centers are more like a regular B center than a dished C center.
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Well......I missed this one!
I called today & it was already sold. He got $1400 for it. I asked if he just did a cosmetic restoration or full resto. He said that he just painted it & put on new guages, etc. but it ran & functioned great.
 
Oh well, I'm still in the learning process & still trying to make up my mind exactly what model tractor I want. I don't want to spend a ton of money getting started. I'm planning to use the tractor to plow, plant, cultivate & harvest produce on a sort of small scale for now until I see how it goes marketing what I grow. So far, I've been just using my old Ford & Case/Ingersoll garden tractors, but they arent really big enough to pull my potato digger easily.
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The reason that you see so many 1939 tractors is that was the biggest year 20,000+ Bs made that year.
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I prefer the later B's over the real early ones myself. PTO, electric start, etc. like Ted mentioned. My B is a 48', and the IB is a 49'. Although there is a 39' that's in pretty nice shape sitting under the big Pine tree to the side of the barn that I know of....
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The one in the pic was a good buy I think, what can you get for 1400 ? Like others said electric start is great.
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Originally posted by Steve in NJ Steve in NJ wrote:

I prefer the later B's over the real early ones myself. PTO, electric start, etc. like Ted mentioned. My B is a 48', and the IB is a 49'. Although there is a 39' that's in pretty nice shape sitting under the big Pine tree to the side of the barn that I know of....
 
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I'm pretty sure the later B had a better steering gear box that made it easier to steer. I don't remember which box was which but one was a Ross and the other I think started with a G. 
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you snooze you loose' I think that was a good buy, i wouldn't sell mine for $1400. & it's basically the same thing.
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