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Need opinion on batteries in a D19 Diesel

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    Posted: 14 Nov 2010 at 6:28pm
My dad had mounted a bracket on the side of the tractor for two large 6 volt batteries for this tractor.
 
I would like to use the original spot again.  Who makes the most durable best fitting battery for these (2) 10.5" x 16" locations? 
 
D19D, D17D, WD, WC, Snobee, #83 Plow, SC Blade, 14' disk, 400 series planter, B , Terra Tiger, M Dozer w/Baker Blade, TL-12, 42S Grader, G
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There are only 3 or 4 battery manufacturers in the U.S. The ones I can think of are Exide, Douglas, and Interstate. The only recomendation I have is go with two 1000 CCA 12V batteries with two 02 gauge cables to the starter. I could get my D17D started easily below 0 with a slight whiff of ether with this combination.
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So...instead of (2) 6 volts in series, two twelve volts in parallel?
D19D, D17D, WD, WC, Snobee, #83 Plow, SC Blade, 14' disk, 400 series planter, B , Terra Tiger, M Dozer w/Baker Blade, TL-12, 42S Grader, G
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Yep! I second the 2 - 12 volt batteries. I have done that to several units. Big improvement.  
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 i went with 2 6 volt interstates and works just fine, havent seen where i would need 2 12 volts, but  i just wanted to keep it original
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2 - 12V is easiest and cheapest, get 2 1000 CCA batteries to fit your pickup or ? and just change them out if you have a problem, most 12V will go up to 6 year replacement on warranty where 6V the most is 2 years.
 I use 2 -12V in all my equipment and the same battery that i use in my GMC pickup or in dump trucks. Get them at Fleet Farm stores as they have best warranty Ive found with little hassle in adjustments.
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Yep, two 12's in parallel. The more CCA you can get to the starter the better. That's why I ran a 2nd cable along side the original. If any of the cables you have now are marginal, replace them.

I should add that the bigger the cable diameter (gauge)the better too.

Edited by Brian Jasper co. Ia - 15 Nov 2010 at 12:03pm
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I do the same as Coke. I hate 6v batteries.

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12v batteries are easier to get , sometime cheaper, thats why my D19D, both D17Ds have 12 volts batteries.   The bigger the cables the better for lots of current flow.    The two sixs will work ok too,  its your choice.  Good luck 
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My 7060 had 4-12volt batteries and I replaced them with 2 -12 volt 4DLT batteries.These batteries are too big to fit anywhere on a D19 but they sure made a difference on my 7060.4 less connections.Go with 2-1000 amp -12 volts and you will not be sorry.Make sure your cables are good and connections,I bought the crimper and make my own with 2-0 cable.
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I've recently learned that when it comes to cold cranking amps, more is not better when it comes to battery longevity, as the more cca the battery has, the finer and closer toghether the plates are, thus they are more likely to touch each other and short out and shorten the battery life. After I got to thinking about it, I have had worse luck with high cca batteries. So lately, I've been backing off a little on cca, get batteries cheaper, and hopefully last longer. Just my 2 cents worth. By the way, my local battery dealer told me this, so I hope he knows what he's talking about. Darrel
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I agree with darrell,  I've heard the same thing from many dealers as well as my own experence with batteries. I usually try to stay in the 700 to 800 cca range.
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Over the years I've switched everything to Interstate. So far I've never replaced one and the oldest is 2003. Fleet Farm and Napa batteries ran through my hands like water sometimes and I just got sick of the hassle of going out to do something and finding a dead battery and the having to run to town to exchange which usually took me a week or so. In the mean time I was giving the battery charger a good work out. After 6 months my NAPA batteries went bad in the 190. With a Full Vision cab in the way you really don't want to do that job very often. Oh, batteries never go bad when it's 75˚ out. They wait until it's -10˚. It's been Interstate for me since.
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Whether you're running one Battery, two batteries, or 4 batteries, in the icy cold Winter, CCA's go way down as does the reserve. The way to keep Batteries in good working order (especially in the wintertime) is to have a Battery tender keeping the Battery or Batteries active. When the electrolite is active, it keeps "bridging" between the plates of the Battery down to a mininmum so Battery life is greatly extended. When the Battery is called upon to turn over engines with oil in them like roofing tar from the cold Winters, the reserve is there, and the Battery spins the engine with darn near full power. Darrel and Dan's comments from their Battery guys are correct. A 700-800 CCA Battery or Batteries that are active (warm) will supply good all around power for an icy cold engine. As the others mentioned, cables are very important also. That also applies to the Summertime to. Battery Tenders are pretty inexpensive, and there are units designed for multiple Battery applications. Deka is another Battery mfr which I'm a dealer for. They make a great Industrial and Heavy Equipment Battery in either 6V or 12
V whichever is needed....
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