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Vdub73
Bronze Level Joined: 21 Sep 2021 Location: Ireland Points: 18 |
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Posted: 19 Apr 2024 at 1:57pm |
Hi All, i have recently got my hands on a WC to go with the B i have. it sat up for a while so all the seals in the rear axle were leaking. i have the large hub seals ordered but im looking for the inner and outer axle seals. inner is approx 4.25in OD and the outer is approx 3.2in OD. im having trouble finding the inner seal - any thoughts? thanks
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Vdub73
Bronze Level Joined: 21 Sep 2021 Location: Ireland Points: 18 |
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Vdub73
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EPALLIS
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Nice looking WC you have there. Thanks for taking the time to share the pic. Curious to what that accessory is that is bolted to the front of the frame? At any rate back to your question, I always try to support my local AGCO dealer first when it comes to sourcing parts. To me this is always a great first step because you can readily find out the part availability and the price you might have to pay and how long you might have to wait to receive it. Sometimes, the part is not available which can happen, or your local AGCO dealer might have a price tag higher than a cats back that you are willing to pay. In that event, I start secondary sourcing that supports the site here. I have had really good luck with: ALLIS CHALMERS WC PARTS - AC WC RESTORATION TRACTOR PARTS (djstractorparts.com)
I'm sure there are other forum members that would respond to your question, much differently than I have. To date both of these sources have always come thru for me and not let me down. There are many other resources as well, however, I'd like to think on a styled Model WC, either one of these could get you what you need. Good luck and enjoy your WC!
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PaulB
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4675 |
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I had a bunch of them in my NOS parts. I haven't gone through them for awhile to see exactly what I have left. I'll have time to look after the first of the week. Shipping them to you in Ireland may be a problem, I know every time I've ever sent anything to Canada it always turned into more trouble that the parts were worth.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
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Grant Forsythe
Bronze Level Joined: 02 Jan 2021 Location: 52745 Points: 79 |
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I just bought these. I had no luck installing the seals everyone else sells, they are too thin. These seals are reinforced like original. Wc requires 4 per tractor.
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Mikez
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What’s the part number
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Vdub73
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Thanks for the info. i got parts already form DJS but they dont have the larger inner seal. i rang them during the week on it. Not sure if i have an oddball axle. my inner and outer seals are not the samre size. thanks!
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Vdub73
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thanks for the reply Grant. i ordered 4 of those size seals but the seal on the inside of my axle are a lot larger which doesnt seem to match anything ive seen so far.
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Mikez
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What’s your serial number of tractor
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Pfouts Family Farm
Bronze Level Joined: 05 Dec 2018 Location: Hiram, Ohio Points: 171 |
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The large diameter inner seal is discontinued by all (or atleast all that I have checked, which is a lot) manufacturers and has been for years. A-C had a kit which came with an adapter ring and smaller diameter seal. This kit was made into the AGCO years, and has been discontinued. If you can find them, last i knew most dealers wanted about $120.00 each for the kits and thats only one side. I know that I had the local dealer check this part on locator thru agco dealer stocks and it is almost near impossible to find. If you have a lathe or know someone who does, you need to make a steel or brass adapter ring that will press fit (tap in with a bearing or seal driver or carefully with a hammer and punch) into the axle housing and an inner diameter of a seal that is obtainable that will fit the shaft - the 450094 in the picture above would work, which would probably be the same as what you ordered and received if all 4 seals are the same size.
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JoeM(GA)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Cumming,GA Points: 4608 |
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isn’t that the Allis adapter in his third post picture?
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Mikez
Orange Level Access Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8309 |
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Mark do you have part numbers handy of adapter and original seal
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Pfouts Family Farm
Bronze Level Joined: 05 Dec 2018 Location: Hiram, Ohio Points: 171 |
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Joe - Now that you mention it, I think it might be. It threw me off a little because it looks smaller than the original type seal, but could just be an illusion. Mike 207708 was the original number. This was for s/n WC67328 and up. 72511216 is the Agco number for the kit with the ring.
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Vdub73
Bronze Level Joined: 21 Sep 2021 Location: Ireland Points: 18 |
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Thanks all for the support. I’ll bring the seals round to a local machine shop and see if they can whip up a pair or ring adapters. Thanks!
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PaulB
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4675 |
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Of the large OD NOS WC axle seals I had, I've kept 2 back for the RC that I have. I've sold all the rest. I don't know if my RC will need the large OD seals or the small OD seals. If I don't get to resealing the RC rear end all the parts I've saved for it go with the tractor when it sells.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
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Vdub73
Bronze Level Joined: 21 Sep 2021 Location: Ireland Points: 18 |
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Hi all, thanks again for the info. Couple of adapters made up and I’m sorted! Thanks. |
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JoeM(GA)
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Cumming,GA Points: 4608 |
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nice!, probably could have made a couple of them for sale!
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Allis Express North Georgia
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Pfouts Family Farm
Bronze Level Joined: 05 Dec 2018 Location: Hiram, Ohio Points: 171 |
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You got it. Thats exactly what the DR ordered. Looks good!
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Mikez
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Hi mark. I believe the number you gave 72511216 is available again from agco.
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Pfouts Family Farm
Bronze Level Joined: 05 Dec 2018 Location: Hiram, Ohio Points: 171 |
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If it is, it is a new development. I had to hunt and scrape to find one for a customer a couple years back. Figured for the age of the tractors they fit, that AGCO was done with it. I think at that point only 3 were found on locator in the entire US. But good if they are back. ** I did just look, yes they are available, and they are really proud of them. Around $135 per side. but they are available.
Edited by Pfouts Family Farm - 14 May 2024 at 9:04am |
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DaveKamp
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5738 |
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Just noting that the OP's location is listed as Ireland. In some cases, that's the forum member's choice to keep location private, and other times, it's because they're actually IN Ireland, where finding a 'local' dealer is not happening. For anyone who uses a false location, realize that obfuscation of location makes it impossible for any respondants to make a useful 'local' suggestion. FWIW, I like this modification... I'll keep that in mind when I dig into my WCs...
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