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Posted: 21 Feb 2024 at 8:59pm |
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Hi , I just bought a woods l59 mower for my B. It has a mounted plow on it now that I don’t need. I assume the drawbar, rockshaft and depth control would be part of it.
What would a good amount to ask for it?
I really don’t want to give it away.
John
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Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 6:50am |
Condition is a large factor, many plows are worn into scrap iron. Many will look at a plow from topside and think it's just fine, however looking from underneath at how far the share is worn into the frog will show otherwise. also how far the landslide is worn up to the frog will tell how much wear the plow has. Some even have a bent beam, this it something that very few can notice, although it will really show up when put into use.. Also in the case of the B/C pickup plow that are many small parts that are needed to properly mount to a tractor, missing them make the plow useless. Many parts that most think belong on the tractor, actually are plow parts. Detailed close up pictures of everything from a couple different angles will allow a potential buyer to access what they are looking at.
Edited by PaulB - 23 Feb 2024 at 2:46pm
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Posted: 22 Feb 2024 at 1:11pm |
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Thanks Paul. I do believe it is complete since it is mounted to the tractor.
The point of it is broken off, I do have the piece that someone tried to weld it back on, and I did buy a replacement piece for it. The coulter has a piece about the size of a 50 cent piece that really shouldn’t hurt anything. And of course it is dirty/rusty which would clean up with some sandpaper or let the dirt clean it up.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 1:52pm |
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 1:53pm |
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Best pics I can get.
The hydraulic cylinder doesn’t go with it
When I get it off the tractor, I will take better pictures and post it in the classified forum.
John
Edited by john2189 - 23 Feb 2024 at 2:19pm
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 3:02pm |
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Paul, is the rockshaft a part of the plow?
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 3:25pm |
rockshaft is normally part of the tractor.. You need it if you have any implement that needs a hydraulic lift.... plow, disc, sickle, blade, etc.
Edited by steve(ill) - 23 Feb 2024 at 3:26pm
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 3:40pm |
 steve(ill) wrote:
rockshaft is normally part of the tractor.. You need it if you have any implement that needs a hydraulic lift.... plow, disc, sickle, blade, etc.
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Thanks that’s what I thought
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 4:28pm |
If the plow is in good shape, it is worth about $100. Left hand, single bottom plows are a little more.
I sold a left/right pair that were just like new for $300 a couple years ago.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 7:08pm |
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Actually the rockshaft is NOT part of the tractor, you will not find the Rockshaft in a B tractor parts book. However it is a required accessory that is needed for many different implements. The Rockshaft shown is found in the B/C Pick-up Plow parts book and is somewhat universal for all implements. There are also other types types of B rockshafts that are for specific implements.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
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Posted: 23 Feb 2024 at 9:29pm |
PaulB wrote:
Actually the rockshaft is NOT part of the tractor, you will not find the Rockshaft in a B tractor parts book. However it is a required accessory that is needed for many different implements. The Rockshaft shown is found in the B/C Pick-up Plow parts book and is somewhat universal for all implements. There are also other types types of B rockshafts that are for specific implements. |
Yep, and the newer paint on the tractor vs. the old paint on the plow and rockshaft also tell that tale. It looks like someone painted the tractor and then added the plow (which came with the rockshaft) later.
You will likely have to sell the rockshaft and mounting brackets with the plow for the plow assembly to be worth anything.
I'm not sure if a guy could get $200 out of a complete plain Jane RH B pickup plow these days or not. A really early version might be worth slightly more to a collector but this is not one of those. If it were me I probably wouldn't bother selling it unless I really needed it out of the way.
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Posted: 24 Feb 2024 at 6:17am |
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I have been looking for a rockshaft. (not real hard) send me an email if you have one to sell. lselkriver@gmail.com
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http://lonsallischalmers.com
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Posted: 24 Feb 2024 at 8:54am |
Lon(MN) wrote:
I have been looking for a rockshaft. (not real hard) send me an email if you have one to sell. lselkriver@gmail.com |
If I sell the plow, it will go with it John
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Posted: 24 Feb 2024 at 8:55am |
wjohn wrote:
PaulB wrote:
Actually the rockshaft is NOT part of the tractor, you will not find the Rockshaft in a B tractor parts book. However it is a required accessory that is needed for many different implements. The Rockshaft shown is found in the B/C Pick-up Plow parts book and is somewhat universal for all implements. There are also other types types of B rockshafts that are for specific implements. |
Yep, and the newer paint on the tractor vs. the old paint on the plow and rockshaft also tell that tale. It looks like someone painted the tractor and then added the plow (which came with the rockshaft) later.
You will likely have to sell the rockshaft and mounting brackets with the plow for the plow assembly to be worth anything.
I'm not sure if a guy could get $200 out of a complete plain Jane RH B pickup plow these days or not. A really early version might be worth slightly more to a collector but this is not one of those. If it were me I probably wouldn't bother selling it unless I really needed it out of the way. |
What does the early version look like?
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Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 7:32pm |
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You might find uses for a plow around if you don't have another, the way the food supply problems are indicating.
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Posted: 26 Feb 2024 at 9:33pm |
john2189 wrote:
What does the early version look like? |
The plow beam is flat steel instead of a casting, the rockshaft is different (actually there were several different versions of the rockshaft early on), the plow drawbar is one-piece made out of round instead of a weldment, the drawbar brackets that bolt to the finals are different, the hand lift lever is different, and there are probably several other things I'm forgetting. I have a nice one in a pile that I want to put on my '39 B someday.
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Posted: 27 Feb 2024 at 5:19am |
jvin248 wrote:
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You might find uses for a plow around if you don't have another, the way the food supply problems are indicating.
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I have a Farmall Cub with a snow plow and mold board plow that does a really nice job
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Posted: 27 Feb 2024 at 5:20am |
wjohn wrote:
john2189 wrote:
What does the early version look like? |
The plow beam is flat steel instead of a casting, the rockshaft is different (actually there were several different versions of the rockshaft early on), the plow drawbar is one-piece made out of round instead of a weldment, the drawbar brackets that bolt to the finals are different, the hand lift lever is different, and there are probably several other things I'm forgetting. I have a nice one in a pile that I want to put on my '39 B someday. |
Sounds like everything is different
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