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automaticdave 
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 Topic: 8010 re-power
Posted: 29 Jan 2024 at 9:47am |
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This is probably going to sound like a another broken record but l did spend most of yesterday afternoon reading past post & researching this, but l,m thinking about put a 426 in my 8010 awd. Main concern is bell house area, it looks like flywheel, torque limiter & pieces except for the cluch disc are different, rad & hoses, exhaust< air intake and a few other things. Agco parts show different part # between 8030 74035834 and a 7030 74028149 flywheel ? Will a gleaner 426 eng oil pan clear the fr diff in a 8010 ? Thanks Dave
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 29 Jan 2024 at 12:56pm |
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Why wouldn't the 426 pan fit the 8010 chassis? Isn't it the same throughout the 8000 series?
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Posted: 31 Jan 2024 at 5:48pm |
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I put a 7030 engine in my 2wd powershift 8010 2 yrs ago,had to change flywheel, got one from countryside tractor,make new hole in hood for exhaust,tweak radiator hoses a little.
Added a fuel shut off cable,reused throttle cable.
I didn't need a working a/c,as it is my feed mixing tractor
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Posted: 01 Feb 2024 at 7:50am |
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I think you would be happier with a 5.9 cummins swap. We did the swap into our 7020 powershift and the tractor is pretty awesome. Make sure its a 5.9 out of a commercial application, not a truck engine. Ours came out of a gradall.
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automaticdave
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Posted: 01 Feb 2024 at 8:29am |
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Thanks guys for the info, I wanted to go 5.9 but tuff finding a 12 valve here in Ontario, I priced a adapter witch was around $3000.00 us then almost another 40% because we live north of the border, then throw in a flywheel & a few more pieces it looked like it could get pricey, Thanks Dave
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Posted: 01 Feb 2024 at 9:03am |
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8010 a Power Director tranny I hope ??
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automaticdave
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Posted: 01 Feb 2024 at 9:07am |
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No Doc its a PS
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Posted: 01 Feb 2024 at 9:22am |
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8010 PST's have a lighter duty transmission than 8030-70's, so beware that a HP increase and more ballast isn't probably a good idea. If everything heavy is done in 6th gear, shouldn't be a problem as that is direct drive.
Edited by DrAllis - 01 Feb 2024 at 9:22am
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Posted: 01 Feb 2024 at 9:37am |
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Ya Doc I hear ya and 3rd & 4th in low range are the most use gears on our farm with this tractor, a 426 mite pull the 1350 cultivator in 6th
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Amos
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Posted: 04 Feb 2024 at 6:00pm |
If I was you I'd fix the 301, or put a 24 valve 5.9 in it. No one seems to want them, and the VP44 fuel pump has an excellent governor in it. I understand the expense of the conversion completely, but I will guarantee your fuel consumption will drop and it will start on the first revolution of the crank when its -10 C. No 301 I ever saw starts as well, for some reason every 8010 I have been around did not want to start worth a crap, yet my 200 fires right up in same conditions, that kind of confuses me....you put a 426 in it and it going to use considerably more fuel.
What is wrong with the 301 in it?
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Posted: 04 Feb 2024 at 6:50pm |
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There is an amish guy one road north of me who usually has lots of 5.9's for sale or whatever your looking for. Last time I was there he had 2 brand new 19liter cummins sitting there.
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Posted: 05 Feb 2024 at 2:37am |
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Curious how you could put a 5.9 with a VP 44 in a tractor? Arent they computer controlled?
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Amos
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Posted: 05 Feb 2024 at 7:15am |
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The ECM are bolted to the block the dimensions are the same as a 12 valve. Wiring is easy can be found all over the internet
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Posted: 05 Feb 2024 at 7:16am |
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Hey 400, would that be Noah???
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Posted: 05 Feb 2024 at 11:07am |
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Yep. Can almost see his place from mine.
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DougG
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Posted: 05 Feb 2024 at 12:52pm |
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I gotcha- thanks Amos- never thought of that
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