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Lars(wi)
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 7107 |
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will definitely be bigger.
Question for the tomato growers, do you tie or cage your plants, or let them sprawl on the ground? Are there certain varieties that are better for cage, and better for sprawling? Prefer heirloom. TIA Edited by Lars(wi) - 31 Dec 2023 at 8:36pm |
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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plummerscarin
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3387 |
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Here, my accountant plants several varieties. She sets steel posts in line with the rows then pulls lines of twine for the plants to grow and attach to. She likes sisal for the biodegradable part but poly would probably hold up better through the growing season. This helps keep the row clear for weeding, tieing, and harvesting. Cages and sprawling didn't work for her. My sister is a horticulturist and she pulls one wire high over the row then drops one line down to each and ties them
Good luck with your garden. We too are expanding as well |
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22291 |
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a garden question ? Woke up to 2-3" of white, so someone's feeling better....... re: toms... Tbars every 6-8', 3 horizontal grape wires, through the tbar holes, then sisal to figure 8 loosely secure the plants. Found it best to grow as the northern most E-W rows. As for type of toms, whatever has the earliest maturity time !! Get 60 day variety not 90 day ones. dang season is too short...sniff sniff.
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Greg (Hillsboro, OH)
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Dumb question Jay, when a tomato says 60 or 90 days, is that from germination, or from the time you transplant the plant you've bought? I'm assuming from germination??
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WF owner
Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4607 |
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My first advice is to space your tomatoes at least 3'-4' apart, if you have enough room. I put down black plastic to keep the weeds out. I never had any luck with the fence style, but that could be my failure. I find letting them grow naturally, leads to a lot more rotted fruit and makes picking them much harder. If you have good fertile, healthy soil (I have a lot of earthworms), do a little watering, rotate your plants and keep the weeds down, you will have a lot of tomatoes! By the way, I disagree with Jay on maturity. I plant one or two early tomato plants, but if you want flavor and size, you need to grow longer maturity varieties. I plant a couple plants every two weeks from May 1 (I have to cover them in case of frost until after Memorial Day) until July 15, so I have a constant fresh tomato supply until frost.
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Lars(wi)
Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 7107 |
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Our first round of tomatoes this year got burned out by the heat, 3 months of temps above 105 nearly every day, doomed them. 2nd round planted in late August are still hanging in there, but yield has been sparse. Still covering the plants at nite when temps are predicting to be below 35, but the foliage is slowly turning yellow underneath, just not enough hours of sunlight this time of year.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3647 |
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I like to start some plants from seeds. Will be time to do that in about six weeks. Stupid 'jalapeno' seeds last year turned out to be banana peppers!
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22291 |
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wow ,planting on May 1st !!! heck, I HAVE to wait until after May 26th before I can plant the 'tenders' else Mr. Frost can do bad things. 60-90 is from seed to eating, in theory. if you start late and frost comes early, you can end up with a LOT of green tomatoes......BTDT..80,yes EIGHT, plants. Probably still have some quarts of green tomato relish in the pantry... if you plant ''determinate' variety , they ALL come at the same time (great if you make sauces...use Roma variety ), indeterminate means a few ripe ones every day(sandwiches !! ) wish I could find a tomato I could grow indoors as I HATE the 'Winter Wooden Wonders' from the stores.
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Lars(wi)
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This year, shooting for start date of St Patrick’s Day for some seeding. As the ground here never freezes, unless the spring is wet, my goal shouldn’t be too unreasonable.
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I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.
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jaybmiller
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sure, rub it in....... I have to wait until 3 days after the Bridal's wreath spirea blooms for tenders. The late farmer cross the road told me that...he was right !
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plummerscarin
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Lol! We had the same problem in reverse. Got jalapeno instead. She does make a great jelly from them though |
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Randy WI
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Lars there are two different types of tomatoes there are determinant that bloom and set fruit and their done and indeterminant that keep right on blooming and set fruit they are better for staking the determinant work well in cages hope this helps you decide
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WF owner
Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4607 |
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Actually, Jay, we tend to be a little cooler here, than your area. I have some wooden boxes that I place around the plants, so they can be easily covered. Last year, we had three hard (killing) frosts after June 1. It takes me 2 minutes to cover the few plants I have in early and the black plastic tends to raise the soil temperature.
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10038 |
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Muy bell peppers turn out to be hot peppers and I emailed the company and they sent me 2 packs of bell peppers that I am going to plant this year. I have front frame for cabinets that I screwed together to make a V that I put over my early plant or seeds and put plaastic on them till the frost is over
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Dave H
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3493 |
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locally, I can buy concrete reinforcement wire by the foot. I forgot the length but recall maybe 5 feet as the required cage. Some of those rascals are getting some years on them. BTW my neighbors chickens don't seem to have a preference on variety. My center of the road variety is celebrity.
Edited by Dave H - 01 Jan 2024 at 3:20pm |
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WF owner
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Mine neither!!!
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Randy WI
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Jan 2014 Location: Ogema, WI Points: 786 |
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We will be going a way from concrete reinforcement wire we have blight in our garden we will be using containers this year
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ac fleet
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2313 |
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I have to space my tomatoes 8 feet apart if I let them on the ground and even then they are running over each other. I plant a wild variety from Jackies seeds in Mn. --- Its an old open pollenated kind, medium sized fruit and a million on each plant.
Caged them last year in 6 foot cages and they went up to the top, then back to the ground, then another 3 to 4 feet across the row. The ones that I didnt have cages for ran over each other and were for the most part impossible to pick and the ones under the mess didnt get ripe. This year I gotta chop the tops off when they get to the top of th cages! lol! also not going to plant the 4.5 acres this year due to health problems. As of now,-- a couple rows of onions and some sweet corn, a few tomatoes, a couple cabbages, maybe a few green beans. Strawberries might make a lot if the winter dont kill them out.
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CS_IN
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I grow mine on woven wire fence. I try and set the fence about 18" off the ground and then I clip the plant to the fence as it grows. As they get bigger, I prune the plant so no part touches the ground. They about overtake the fence and I have to brace accordingly. I grow hybrids for my main production but do grow a few heirlooms as well. The picture of ripe tomatoes was about 2-3 plants.
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IBWD MIke
Orange Level Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 3647 |
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Picked up the first batch of seeds at the local farm store yesterday. No time like the present! Will start the tomatoes in about five weeks, Burpee sandwich slicer's.
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plummerscarin
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Mmmmm. Missing a fresh tomato now. My accountant won’t start from seed. Will have to wait until sets are available
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IBWD MIke
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Plummer, I start them from seed because I can't find the plants I want come spring. Early girls are everywhere, I plant four of them every year. Used to plant 'Goliath' tomatoes. Can't find them around here anymore, hence the 'sandwich slicers'. They make nice, big fruit. One slice makes a sandwich!
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plummerscarin
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I’ll look in to those sandwich slicers. She likes Early Girl best but the Big Boys make a better BLT with our home cured bacon
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