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NEVER green
Orange Level Access Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Location: MN. Points: 7490 |
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Posted: 11 Dec 2023 at 9:09am |
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Ky.Allis
Orange Level Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Location: Kentucky Points: 1002 |
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I know some will compare this to the price of a new 75 HP tractor and somehow justify the price. But, this is a company that's been "out of business" for 35 years now. I think it's way too high, but what do I know. If I were smart, I never would've farmed my whole life and have very little to show for it.
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Cernunnos
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Is that Richard (oldfarmjunk101) videoing in the background? A possible celebrity sighting in action.
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22454 |
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at least there's no dang 'computer' in it !!!! as a compare... I want to buy a 97-03 Ford F150, southern...will pay 50% of what a 2023 'equal' will cost. |
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DrAllis
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Muffler replaced before actual 1500 hrs ???? Looks like a repaint to me and maybe a seat replaced ??
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bigal121892
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I like computers, for one thing they make it much harder, (not impossible) to abuse equipment.
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NEVER green
Orange Level Access Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Location: MN. Points: 7490 |
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Or... leave you stranded for days and you cant work on them.
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4517 |
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Wither you like it or not you have put a inflation factor in the equation. A friend bought a new, New Holland crawler tractor for use in a vineyard. At about the same time on the antique Cat forum, someone had a price of a brand new D2 crawler back years ago. Using google for the inflation factor, I was surprised the cost was very close to the same. So in general, you are very correct that old ones are overpriced. In my example the NH tractor has 3pt hitch 3 hydraulic valves, and twice the horsepower and a PTO. Even though with the same weight and square inches of track on the ground it will not handle bigger tillage tools. But the "fix it again Tony" (Fiat built) will not last for as many hours of use as the old Cat. So if you don't have use for the added accouterments of the new machine, you can say the old one is not such a bad buy. But who knows how many at a auction have given any of that real though before raising their hand.
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skateboarder68
Silver Level Joined: 29 Jan 2011 Location: Keota, IA Points: 369 |
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If it is truly as good as it appears in the video why wouldn’t it be worth 17,500?? Why shouldn’t it be worth as much a a comparable IH. What would a 766 bring that looks like that with 1500 original hours?
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Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240.
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tadams(OH)
Orange Level Access Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10119 |
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What does anew tractor of that size and horse power cost ? If the comutper crashes you couldn't fix it but you can repair this old AC
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Tom59
Bronze Level Joined: 27 Feb 2021 Location: Lebanon Tenness Points: 150 |
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Nice looking tractor from the video and it hard to find nice older tractors that not been trashed for sell to buy today. As for the selling price two bidders took it to that $17,500. I wonder if there more to the story about that AC 185 tractor, some personal connection ?
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DanWi
Orange Level Access Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1779 |
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The thing with these prices is weather you are buying or selling. 20 years ago we saw 185, 190, and 200s sell for $5000. Now we are seeing those tractors go for $10,000 to$15,000+ if we are selling now we are smiling ear to ear but if we want to buy one for the first time or add to the fleet, It's not such a good deal. But lok at what repairs cost now, if you have to rebuild a motor or put tires on, or do a quality paint job it adds up.
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Steve in NJ
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 11791 |
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Well, to me, for one thing, these new Tractors aren't built heavy duty as the old Tractors are. Also, when you have an on board computer running the show, unless you purchase the equipment to troubleshoot it (which is mega bucks) if that Tractor breaks down, your SOL till a tech comes over (service charge) to find out the problem. To me, that Tractor is outta' service, and the way these new ones are dropping like fly's in the field (or catching fire for whatever reason) yer' outta' Tractor and standing there twittlin' yer' thumbs! At least the old ones, whether you put a ton of money into them, you can still fix the dang thing and get it back in service. That's a PLUS in my opinion for whatever that's worth. Call me old fashioned, but anything new to me is junk! That applies to the Garden Tractors as well. Who makes a 900 lb. GT anymore? And that's without any attachments! LOL! Steve@B&B
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AC7060IL
Orange Level Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3340 |
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Bunch of factors involved at this auction - broad tractor brand selections, solid advertising, great auctioneer energy, wonderful bid runners assisting auctioneer ~ all components of a well attended auction either in person on sale day or online. Try watching the video again, but pay attention to the boy bidding on the Oliver 2255 with Cat 3208. That boy was driven. Experience notices his seriousness, real quick. He was not stopping for any reason(s) other bidders might have understood... So who was foolishly trying to outbid him? Other young person(s)?? Adults that always wanted this particular model? His brother standing next to him was turning his head from auctioneer to him on every number. Yeah, the brother was all about it too. Watch the 15 year old's hand reach for his bid number card near the end of bidding. There's a big smile on his face. Maybe cause a prior Oliver 2255 no cab sold for $30K. About every head is turned from most of the attending audience. I imagine that audience was wondering just like us on this forum ~ why is that bringing so much money??? Be interesting to know what was going on inside that 15 year olds mind that he'd spend $25K that quickly? Was he bidding with his money? Or someone else's dollars? We'll probably never know. Anyway, Thanks Never Green for sharing the video link. I enjoyed viewing it & think that Oliver 2255's bidding details help explain some of the $17.5K AC 185.
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NEVER green
Orange Level Access Joined: 28 Feb 2013 Location: MN. Points: 7490 |
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I dont know why but I got the biggest kick out of that kid, had my wife and kids sit down and view it with me. |
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Nathan (SD)
Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Day County SD Points: 1260 |
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I believe the 1500 hrs. Someone took a low hour original and tried to do a quick and easy restoration. Seen it before on a few D series. Take a $15,000 original condition tractor, give it new tires, a new seat, a new muffler, and a new paint job. After all that magic it is now worth $17,500. |
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