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jrbynf 
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 Topic: 180 Allis Loose Steering
Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 4:01pm |
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Restoring a 180 Allis. There is a lot of slop in the steering/wheels move when going over rough terrain on their own. I have replaced the tie rods. Castle nut on steering arm is tight. I am wondering if the slop is from a worn out steering arm bushing. Thanks
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Ky.Allis
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 4:32pm |
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My 200 did that long ago. Made it tough to mow hay. Turned out to be the orbital motor. Had it "fixed" at a reputable shop and it still did it. Got one from a salvage yard and it worked perfect.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 6:57pm |
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jack the front tires and inch off the ground.. have someone turn the wheel 30 degrees back and forth while you watch the steering column, tie rods, etc to see WHAT is moving and what is not... ( thats the slop point).
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randy
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 7:01pm |
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Mine was the rear bolt on the steering cylinder
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KJCHRIS
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 7:45pm |
Steering arm bushings and the bearings on each end of steering cylinder are good places to start to look. Especially if use of a grease gun is complicated. Those bearings are pressed in and are expensive to buy thru AGCO. Jack up at least 1 front tire and move tire each direction watching for movement in area near cylinder. It doesn't take much there to be a lot at the tires.
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Steve A
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 8:39pm |
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The bushings and inner steering column had been pulled upward by the previous owner or one of his employees when I bought my 170. That would allow the gear at the bottom of the column to lose contact with the splines on the orbital if it was jarred. Combination of that, a length of tow chain on the floorboard, the weight of the loader bucket, a pothole full of water and a dead tree made for a memorable drive home the day I bought it.
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Joe(TX)
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 9:09pm |
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Have you checked the front and rear axle pivots?
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