Gleaner combines engines/tractor engines

Yes it does have the ambach pump currently and no cooler on rh side. It’s part of the filter head on Lh side. Will have a roosa when engine gets put back together.

Edited by im4racin - 30 Dec 2024 at 9:48pm

Sorry i miss typed the 8010 has LH cooler. I will correct it!

8010 doesn't use the external line. Out the lh side through the filter cooler head and right back in the lh side. Same concept as the early L but different parts

Edited by im4racin - 30 Dec 2024 at 8:19pm

I think that is the best way to put it! I just checked my 8010. No slug from factory. it has the LH cooler

Edited by im4racin - 30 Dec 2024 at 8:19pm

Not all have it. The early L 301 won't have it along with my 940 payloader(has the same cooler package as the 72 L combine). Probably only the stuff with the external line to the oil cooler. Not sure about the late 301 in an 8010. The filter and cooler are on LH side so that passage needs to be open.

After a painful lesson we should add that on some 301 engine there is a pressure/check valve in the oil passage in the rear of the block that stops oil flow when feeding from the lh side of engine.  It has been an expensive lesson!

I disagree that combines never needed it. I have yet to see an allis produced combine without a hyd pump. It would have been simpler and cheaper to use common parts and hang the pump on the engine. The belt drive pump wouldn't have made it through my prototype stall!

Edited by im4racin - 11 Nov 2023 at 6:56am

On the Gleaner/Allis diesel engine line-up, all the fuel injection systems have a variable governor. Many modern/current build combines do not. All of Gleaner gasoline powered models (A-C or GM) were all governor controlled at high-idle speed only.

Seldom, if ever, are there any Gleaner combine DIESEL engines that will drop right in an A-C tractor without changes being made. A good deal of the time the changes are far more complex than most realize. Differences between turbo-charged and non-turbo engines oiling systems is usually the first thing, with oil pan shapes/capacities, and oil pump configurations being of several different types. Then, there are oil coolers and oil passage way plugs and springs. Newer blocks may have piston cooling and some older ones don't. Having a 1973 tractor and a 1973 combine engine does help somewhat, but just because they are the same age doesn't mean they will be the same. The next difference will be the fact that ZERO combine engines have a place for a hydraulic pump drive on the left front corner !!  It isn't there because combines NEVER had the need for it. To changeover a combine engine using your tractor engines front plate and front cover components is more work than just overhauling your tractor engine!!  Water pump height and connections are sometimes different, so you have to use tractor parts for tractor applications. Injection pump settings and electric or manual shut-offs and throttle lever positions would be next on the list.  How the front of the engine is attached to the chassis or side frames has more than one design. The rear plate of the engine has more than one design. The flywheels are usually different. Then, there are starters, alternator brackets and turbo-chargers. I refer back to the first sentence: seldom, if ever, are there any Gleaner DIESEL combine engines that will drop right in an A-C tractor without changes being made. Same theory would go for a gen-set engine !!!!!!!!

Edited by DrAllis - 07 Dec 2022 at 6:26am