Allis CA

We took three tractors to our local tractor club pull Saturday. The CA, The WZ and The WD45. Three of us pulled. One guy on each tractor got to pull in two classes. The WD45 with Owen on board pulled first in 4500, then 4500 open and then 4000 lb class. 

Track was fairly dry and hard. He pulled in second gear. Spun out on loose dirt and really did not lift the front end much during the pull.

Unfortunately Owen got caught speeding with the 4 mph speed limit. He would have placed in first.

Next Mike pulled the WZ in the 3750 class and the 3500 lb class. He placed second in the 3500 lb class. 

I pulled the CA in the 3000 lb class and the 2500 lb class and placed second in the 2500 lb class. There were only three pullers in the 2500 lb class.

We had a good time. I felt like a kid in the sand box. Trucks, trailers, tractors and friends and family playing in the dirt! Doesn't get much better.

Regards,

 Chris and Cheryl

 Doesn't 

Some tractor stuff. May get my mind off the pup. NOT!

Anyway some shots from the local fair we finished up tractor pulling on Friday and Saturday. A family event. All of us had fun.

The WZ at the cement pulls on Friday we got 5th place. To much power spun the tires at 5 inches with 4000 lb on the boat. (this was the 3500 lb class)

Gary on his WD, won the 3500 class on cement with a full 50 foot pull. Made it look easy!

That evening I pulled in the Farm stock 3500 lb class and placed in third with the WZ tractor. Great grand daughter Cassie really like the tractors too!

A little off topic but Daughter and her boyfriend Owen took the 32 in the parade while we got all the Allis tractors weighed in:

The CA ready to get to the sled:

I really cant complain on how it ran. We finished in 2nd place in the 3000 lb class behind a stout Farmall C. There were a dozen tractors in that class. FYI The 2500 lb class had 3 tractors which is where this tractor pulled most of the time.

The front got a little light even with the 180 lb on the front. 

Grandson Mike on WD45 he finished 6th in a big class at 4500 lb.

Owen Z pulled the WZ and got a third in 3500, and Mike pulled his cousins WD and got 4th in same class.

Regards,

Chris and Cheryl

 We put Ruby to rest tonight. She took on the responsibility of staying by Cheryl's side most of the time during each day! A great help with my wife in her three years with us. 

Regards,

 Chris and Cheryl

Pretty hard for me to hide that I am now an old fart! 

I have seen the differences in shape of the CA vs B/C engine weights which is what I have. What I was concern with is the assembly that I had which I got that had a long arm, I believe was a "C" casting that did not have any side protrusions for a B/C or a CA to attach weights. Anyway, I used the junk I had and the weights I got with the tractor. They are in place. Do I need them, I have no clue, but in some track conditions I have seen the front of these be a little light. 

Regards,

 chris and Cheryl

 Chris I have a couple of pictures that will show the difference between the CA an B/C front weight mounts. I just have to take time to process them from my phone into the computer.

 I think I have all the do-dads on the CA. Time for a viewing!

This step turned out ok.

Regards,

 Chris and Cheryl

Heck of a concept reading the lable! Well I accepted the crinkle paint texture on the weights. 

New seal in place for the PTO:

 old seal tapped out with a large socket

First day in bibs

Hanging out:

Weights added. The extensions worked well to secure the outer weights.

Engine -2 side weights. These are awkward to install. 

 That 180 lb on the front should keep the front on the ground??

Cleaned and added an exhaust flapper rain cap. Sand blasted several of the 15 lb weights for the back of of the CA.

Regards,

Chris and Cheryl

 I did get some additional details completed on the CA.

Since its a pulling tractor and we do now have weights available. Then we need systems to attach and secure them. Heaviest weight are the side engine weights at 90 lbs each.

The 12 IH rear wheel weights are approx 32 ish each, bolting to the IH rims.

I fabed these 4 stud extenders to add the additional 4 weights to the rims after the eight were in place. Just tacked at this point.-+

I wanted a D ring on each side to attach the tractor to the trailer. These were from Tractor Supply and were to be bolted the a trailer. I blacksmithed the attachment bracket to fit the tractor.

I was so happy with Rustoleum paint today. I sprayed a second coat of the cream on these and within minutes it went to cobweb texture. So much for all the cleaning and prep!

This is 1.5 sq tubing where I was mocking up a tube to hold the 200+ lbs of sq , 15 lb weights we have.

These flat sq weights can be stacked on these tubes. That should work.

All that playing around will get us in the 3000 lb class if desired. Or allow us to add some weight if the Great grandkids are driving the CA.

Regards,

 Chris and Cheryl

Haven't been on here in a while. Boy, that CA looks pretty darn nice to me! Great job Chris. Congrats!  Hope the ole girl pulls a good as it looks. It's to nice to get dirty! LOL!

Steve@B&B

Could you post a picture of the B/C side weights used with a longer bolt? Might help someone working on this old iron too.

Folks,

I just cleaned up the longer,  lower steering arm, the side weights, and the knobs they set on. Shot some high build primer on them maybe I can put some of that shiny PO#1 on them soon. The crude paint booth has helped reduce the over spray in the shop a lot! 

This old CA was a misfit when I bought it and hasn't gotten much better in my possession either.

I did talk with Brenda at Sandy Lake Impl. and ordered a seal for the PTO shaft. That may reduce the oil dripping from that area? Still have a pesky leak from one of the rad hose connections. Like most of the other Allis tractors we have, they all mark their territory! 

Also dropped off the IH rear wheel weights to get them cut in half. They have several saws that should make short work of those. I am going to make some brackets and sq tubing to allow our 15 lb weights to be added if needed.

Here is the short arm, key, gear and bolt. It almost fell out of there!:)

The old sandblaster helps clean these items back near original condition.

Regards,

 Chris and Cheryl

Both of the -2 versions have the bevel as shown in Brian's picture. Might not be clear in my pictures? The weight has to be inverted to fit the opposite side of the tractor. So I guess as others have noted I have 2 of the B/C weights with the AM3315-2 Like the rest of the tractor mismatched stuff through this unit! The weights look like they will fit and work on both sides of the engine.

Thanks guys for the leads on extra weights available. A friend may be looking for some of these for his CA tractor.

So I started on the front steering prototyping of the CA steering arms. This may work? I almost have the shaft out of the gear in the casting that is on the tractor. This short arm is a different shaft and gear design than the long arm version. The short arm gear is keyed on a straight shaft. It has a typical Allis set screw with a lock nut like the one holding the starter in place as an example. So I have the shaft almost out of the gear. Yikes it is really happy there! Hope to get that apart tomorrow. Then I will attempt to install the long arm and its gear, key, and lock nut assembly. If it doesn't not work, well I will have learned a little more about these tractors.

Regards,

 Chris and Cheryl

The preceding part number is AM3315 on both of yours?

 Thanks for checking on me. I had forgotten about the steering casting that you have. That's an idea for sure. I think I got long arm casting but it did not have the lugs on the sides for the weight bushings to be attached. Maybe that was from a long arm C?? I will have to look back on that. 

BTW the reground cam seems to be running fine.

I got to thinking on this long arm/ short arm thing. And Ok I am old and somewhat brain dead. So the gerble jumped back on the little wheel in there, and I think I still have that long arm, no wheel weight lugs, upper casting. I never thought about taking the long arm and its shaft being removed from the casting. Humm. Someone had to put it together, That arm did not grow in there. 

So went out in the vast warehouse and found said casting assembly. Proceeded to remove the long rod assembly. I have no clue why I did not consider this change earlier in the project?? Will it work? The castings have a different length protrusion of the casting where the steering rod goes in. Will that be an issue?? I done think so?? Or I could put a spacer over the long arm shaft??

So probably someone mentioned this change before and I missed it and got off on another tangent?? Open for comments.

Regards,

 Chris and Cheryl