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million56 
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 Topic: help, bale twine wrapping up on front axel seals
Posted: 02 Oct 2010 at 8:51am |
I am really tired of cutting bale twine out from front and rear axels before it cuts seals. I know there has to be a farmer fix for keeping it from wrapping up. It is about time to start feeding hay again. And I was hoping that somebody out there has any ideas I would appreciate it.
Thanks Jason
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 02 Oct 2010 at 9:04am |
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Pick up the twine by hand before you run over it.
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 02 Oct 2010 at 9:41am |
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That's what I was gonna say too. Cut the twine and remove from the bale.
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firebrick43
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Posted: 02 Oct 2010 at 10:09am |
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Several thousand cattle die every year due to twine ingestion. It causes problems galore with equipment. Yet many never will/do pickup their twine? My dad would beat my rear raw for leaving twine out and about. Baler miss tie, you better find it all. But some will keep on doing it.
I am also amazed that you are ready to start feeding hay again? With proper management I fed hay for 47 days last year and it was a bad winter, also I am north of you by several hundred miles.
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scott
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Posted: 02 Oct 2010 at 10:23am |
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Do you use plastic string or sisal? The sisal will rot away but the plastic stuff makes a mess. If you have so much loose string it is getting wound around stuff the string is not your problem...
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Nathan (SD)
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Posted: 03 Oct 2010 at 11:28am |
These guys are alot of help aren't they. If you aint doing it their way, it is the wrong way. For the rest of us that feed our hay at the wrong time of the year, in a incorrect fashion , use the wrong kind of twine, or don't have the correct amount of rainfall to manage our pastures, strings can be a problem.
I don't have a good answer either. I get alot of twine build up also but i can't say I have ever lost a seal to it. Our skidloader has deep offset wheels that are always full of strings but they have a extra plate over the seal to protect it.
Your original question as I read it asks if there is a way to keep it from wrapping up. I would say no. If a wheel turns any where near twine, it is gonna wrap somewhere. Continuos cutting is about the only answer.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 03 Oct 2010 at 1:14pm |
Try a different type of seal , 2 lip seal , I had the problem on PTO shaft and now use 2 seals 1st on inside is in direction to hold oil IN, second on outside is reversed so it EXCLUDES things from getting to inner seal. Grease in between the two seals to cut down on shaft wear.
On your feed use, farm practices and other matters , your choice as situation demands in your area. LOL
Edited by Coke-in-MN - 03 Oct 2010 at 1:16pm
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ScottinSWIL
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Posted: 03 Oct 2010 at 10:03pm |
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Thinking about this and I can say we always take time to stop with the bale at the feeder and remove the strings. Alot of times the problem is with those loose hanging pieces as you are driving to the feeder that the front or back wheel catches or tears off. Anyone that gets 100% of the string all the time must have too much time to spare. Besides wrapping on the wheels and axles, the real fun is when the manure spreader gets the back beater loaded up with plastic twine. I admit it is aggravating to end up with twine wrapped on the manure spreader, discbine, or even the baler sometimes will end up some that layed out in the field from the previous baling. The only fix I know is check what's wrapped often, as the less there is, the easier it is to pull off of there.
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amo1977
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Posted: 03 Oct 2010 at 10:34pm |
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They are kinda blunt, but unless you check you wheels often its going to happen unless you remove the twine. What I do and it doesn't take too long to do is cut it off all in the same place. Tug on it and most of it will come off. I do this with the round side facing down. Sometimes it will stick and Ill have to lift bale. As Im pulling I just keep wrapping it up into a coil. I never get it all, but I really don't have too much problem. Wrap it up like an extension cord and it works slick.
I sopose you could fabricate some kinda shield or something to mount around your spindle or something.
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firebrick43
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Posted: 03 Oct 2010 at 10:47pm |
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Wow, guess I pushed a few buttons. And Nathan, mid MO gets more rain that me.
I do occasionally miss a piece but I take my time as it takes more time fix equipment when twine tears it up, and it typically happens at the worst moment.
Google propeller shaft rope cutter.
You can put a stationary hardened blade on the spindle to run very close to the face of the seal. If positioned right it works and keeps the seal clear. It takes some time to install correctly and it can cause some damage itself if it is ever bumped which is why I hesitate to suggest it. The only other option is to build/adapt your hubs to duocone or a grit guard style seal. Doubt you could do that however unless you machine a whole new hub.
Edited by firebrick43 - 03 Oct 2010 at 10:49pm
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 6:57am |
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Just pick up the string.
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amo1977
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 7:06pm |
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Forgot to mention that I cut it down low on the one side, grab all the strings in one hand and go over the top, then I start coiling it up and pull out the bottom. Makes a nice clean little "loop" of twine.
I guess now I have heard of the spindle blade. Be a good precausion type of deal.
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Lonn
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Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 6:28am |
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I cut the twines off the bales but I only feed 20 cattle at a time. When Dad was milking cows and custom baling and renting ground we didn't have a whole lot of time to mess with cutting twine off every bale. We just occasionally would cut the twine off the axles from time to time. No big deal. We fed hay year around. Managing your pasture would be great if you had a lot of pasture to manage but around here your land is much more productive as a field where you grow your hay and bring it to the cattle. Dad had about 30 acres of pasture land for 100 plus cattle so you fed year around.
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