TRACTION BOOSTER GAUGE ??

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   What is the purpose of this gauge ??? If it hits "this-or that" realm on the scale, WHAT was/is the operator supposed to do  ??

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FREEDGUY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396	Post Options Post Reply Quote FREEDGUY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: TRACTION BOOSTER GAUGE ?? Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 7:12pm
	What is the purpose of this gauge ??? If it hits "this-or that" realm on the scale, WHAT was/is the operator supposed to do ??

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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21482	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 8:25pm
	The Traction Booster system was a combination of a large coil spring that pulled the implement thru the field that was connected to the hydraulic pump. When the coil spring was compressed from a heavy load, thru sensing linkage to the pump, the hydraulic pump would slowly pressurize the lift arm cylinders to try and lift the implement, which put weight on the rear wheels, thus increasing traction. The rear tires would squat a bit as the lifting of the implement happened, which helped keep the implement in the ground. The Traction Booster pressure gauge was a measure of activity and allowed the operator to increase or decrease the system's effectiveness. The operator either turned it on more or less using the gauge to fine tune its operation. Actually operating a tractor with the system shows how it works much better than writing about it. Edited by DrAllis - 19 Jun 2022 at 8:37pm

FREEDGUY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5396	Post Options Post Reply Quote FREEDGUY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 8:39pm
	Thanks Doc for the explanation on how it works, I'm familiar with the D series "2- lever" hydraulic lever set-up . Why did the gauge go away on the 100/200 series ??

DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21482	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jun 2022 at 9:02pm
	Because the systems linkage was improved to provide "feed back" to help control the depth much better. Plows also became more common as a semi-mounted with hydraulic tail wheel, so the depth control of the plows front bottoms were different than fully mounted. Simply put, with better linkage control, no gauge needed.

JC-WI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 34257	Post Options Post Reply Quote JC-WI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jun 2022 at 4:15am
	Coulda watched a short sales video... From AC themselves describing the TB system. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJRphKoweAM Doc, I hooked up to a full 3 point mounted plow for the first time in my life and didn't expect that thing to be such a miserable thing to use, Specially in rolling ground or pulling out of the plow furrow. Front end starts raising, the plow goes deeper, front goes over the crest and the plow comes out of the ground. It does not plow as nice as the old snap coupler plows do. Those when the front end is coming out of the furrow, the hitch in the coupler is raising the front of the plow because it is ahead of the rear wheels. Dad started me out on 3-14 behind the old WD then the WD45 and then D17... Then got a 4-14 when we got the 17 Diesel and that was a semi mounted plow... and did not remember any head aches with that plow either. Then got the XT and 4-16 semi mounted snap coupler plow and turned dirt faster. Got our second XT and it was 3 point and got a 4-16 semi mounted plow for it. Noticed we had to put weights on front or the plow could rear the front of the tractor if you hit the clay ... and sink the plow into the ground fast. Then got a 5-16 565 Oliver plow and hung more weight out front. Then got the 6-18 3 pt on-land hitch plow. Took a few minutes longer to learn that plow. No longer using the XT for plowing when hooked to that plow. Well anyway, after running that 3-16 full mounted plow behind the 170, I have decided that they weren't so great after all. Neighbor said that he had same experience with their 3pt plow as I did.
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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21482	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jun 2022 at 6:14am
	I just plowed earlier in May with my One-Seventy high platform and fully mounted 4 x 14's 74 series and it worked beautifully. I had the linkage set for maximum feed back. This linkage setting adjustment is in the owners manual. 3 point plows sit a little farther back requiring some more front end weight. I had 500 lbs on the nose. I can send you a video if I have an email. ALSO had the top link in the TOP hole on the tractor, which I think helped a lot over the middle hole. Didn't raise the tail of the plow as high, but adequate. Edited by DrAllis - 20 Jun 2022 at 6:20am

Tbone95 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12016	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tbone95 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jun 2022 at 7:15am
	We plowed with a fully mounted plow for years. Not Allis stuff, but just sayin'. One of the huge benefits of the semi mounted plows was the ability to avoid getting stuck, or if you got stuck being pulled out much easier, do to being able to raise the back of the plow. The mounted ones, when you started going down, you basically kept going!

JC-WI Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 34257	Post Options Post Reply Quote JC-WI Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jun 2022 at 10:49am
	Guess maybe I need to find a plow book for the fully mounted. I had tried adjusting lift arm linkage and the third link and got the plow to run level but didn't think about moving the center link up or down in the 3 holes. May have to try that when using the plow again. might have to find one of those heavy front castings to hang on it to keep the front down better. Had the depth set and the TB was real sensitive, just feel the lever move just a fraction and the plow would come out of the ground. all the linkages are loose and working. Plow worked good on flat ground.
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DrAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21482	Post Options Post Reply Quote DrAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Jun 2022 at 10:56am
	With the top link in the top hole on the tractor, the plow tends to lift more level, so when the TBoost activates a little the rear bottom stays in the ground. In the middle hole and even worse the lower hole, the rear bottom lifts at a much faster rate than the front bottom does. I do think maximum feed back is best and lots of front end weights.