Beefing up wd45 3 bolt wfe

Was seeing a lot of people saying the 3 bolt pivot plate was a bit weak, I decided to build a new pivot plate that's much larger, it will be attached to the frame rails with some 3/8 angle, via 2 bolts per side, the original pivot plate will be bolted/stacked in front, but I would also like to drill and tap 2 additional bolt holes i to the steering gearbox, I'll post pics of the locations I have chosen, I would sure appreciate some opinions, unless its freakout over it not being original lol

I have my 2 possible bolt holes marked and pre-drilled, I need to know if it is a safe location

Edited by Catalinacrasher - 04 Sep 2020 at 2:54am

Hi,

Good looking WD45. Yes the loader systems and years of use can wear the 3 bolt connections to that front casting. I have seen bad ones but a lot of folks have seen them survive forever too. Its all about how hard they were used. I did a front end swap on the WD that was my Uncle Jacks. The donor casting was just a little better but still needed work and had been drilled and tapped several places already. I ended up with a 7 bolt plate that is larger but of similar shape. I still have parts of the plate my uncle put on the tractor to keep the front together. Like you he wend out to the frame rails and added plate along the rails. Just a warning, unless you already got there. Those bolts on the side rails of the casting can be easy to get out or they can be rusted and break off in a 1/4 turn. BTDT.

I think you will be happy with the mods, and its your tractor, and if you need to make it back to factory original someday the parts are available.

Your tractor looks to be in pretty good condition.

I would like to have a dollar for every scoop of manure I loaded with one of those tractors!

Not the most user friendly units to run but as a kid it didnt matter I was doing something with a tractor.

Regards,

Chris

ps: thanks for the pictures! It helps us and lets us know there is another person passionate about these old Allis machines too!

Edited by Sugarmaker - 04 Sep 2020 at 7:58am

D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.

Oh the plate on the loader, was really more so I can paint my last name on it, may be conceited but everything I put paint on, has my name somewhere lol

The original bolts were only grade 5, I was thinking of putting grade 8 on the side rails, not sure what the shear strength of grade 8 vs cast iron is

I put some racing stripes on my truck as a teenager, with my name in one of them, and been doing it ever since, I just go and buy some letter stickers, I'll put down Persian 1 lay the stickers, go over it with persian 2, then peel the stickers, perfect letters every time, I think it will look neat

I was planning on both, I've got it connected to one side rail last night, and will do the other side when I'm off work, I'll post a pic of that when I get home, I assume the bolts came loose at some point, when I got it the plate only had 2 bolts, the bolt hole on the right was blasted out the side and the plate was very very twisted, also the rod for the hand crank is bent and looks like the plate slammed into it, i assume they didnt realize there was an issue until there was only one bolt and the crank rod holding it up lol

Looks good to me,probably the best front plate ever on a WD45

Done

Edited by Catalinacrasher - 30 Sep 2020 at 1:37am

I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6

Looks good..... a suggestion..... I'd lay another big fat bead of weld over the top of the weld connecting the side plates to the front plate. Or two smaller beads one to better connect the side plate to your original weld and another to connect better the front plate to your original weld.

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IBWD MIke wrote:

Catalinacrasher wrote:

Oh the plate on the loader, was really more so I can paint my last name on it, may be conceited but everything I put paint on, has my name somewhere lol

Interesting thought. My painting skills are such that I would rather people wonder who painted that!

Letter stickers

And final product

Edited by Catalinacrasher - 30 Sep 2020 at 1:35am

I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6

It sure is

I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6

Catalinacrasher wrote:

In the process of doing this I lost the pin on the hand crank starte, any idea what size dowel or maybe a roll pin would work, btw you wouldn't believe how easy these are to start up by hand

Hey Catalina
Great thread and loved the work.
If you have dimensions or diagrams please Pm me or email me. Shorelinetractor@gmail.com or salbevi@att.net

Also did you find the size width and length pin for the hand crank rod. I assume a split roll pin may work but would like to buy the right size from hardware store instead of a case of various sizes.
Thanks and again awesome work and loved it. Very practical especially for someone still using a loader and now you can use it pretty darn hard and not worry.

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