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Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 11:34am |
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Just curious if there was any serial numbers kept on the backhoes. I haven't found anything online.
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Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 8:52pm |
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I have them in my serial # book.
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Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 9:05pm |
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I will get the serial number tomorrow off of my backhoe supposed to be a 82 but I would like to confirm that.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 7:05am |
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 10:40am |
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Also how many 715c backhoes did they make?
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 11:47am |
My book is a '99 edition but it only lists the 715 from '73 to '77 and I don't know why the records would end there for the 715 as it lists other Allis and Fiat Allis machinery into the nineties? The beginning of the serial numbers for the 715 in '77 was #1938. Up to that point 938 units had been made since '73. It's a bit of a mystery that not more information would be found online about this. It may be that this post of yours will get more input with a bit of time. Several members on here have or have had the 715 loader backhoes and you might hear from them.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 11:50am |
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Ok thank you for the info Eric B I appreciate it.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 11:55am |
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They made the 715c between 81-85 with the allis chalmers 433t motor. Mine is supposed to be a 82 but hard telling I guess cds bought the backhoe line out in 85 and repowered them with a Cummins? Such a shame allis chalmers records got thrown out.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 5:29pm |
#3237 - 3467 are the #'s , for 1982, in Swinford's construction book... 
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 5:48pm |
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Thank you very much DiyDave! Does it say how many where made? I'm looking to buy the construction equipment book even though the price is pretty steep.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 7:30pm |
Production started at 1001, so the total would be 2467, not counting any produced after 1982, where the data disappears...
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 12:40pm |
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AC sold the rights to MINNPAR - were produced under CDS brand and that was sold to Ingersol Rand , but that was sold to someone else - believe Koreans
My 715-B - D is a 82 but with Perkins engine , I bought it from Municipality that sold in in 87 with 2000 hours as they did not keep anything older than 5 years from purchase .
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 12:51pm |
Look up CDS hoes CDS INC.715C (disc. 1989)https://www.storeslider.com/allis-chalmers-cds-tractor-loader-backhoe-KXW8VQX81QHVNWNCM.html
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHWA_enUS627US627&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=CDS+-+tractor+loader+backhoe&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiguqH5uL7rAhUDCc0KHVBMDzIQsAR6BAgKEAE
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 7:56pm |
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Would anyone be willing to upload pictures of my backhoe? My phone wouldn't let me post pictures on here. Would also like to see any other 715c backhoe out there. My cell is 207-431-9826
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 2:05pm |
Hello, first I would like to thank anyone who is willing to
share knowledge on the first Allis Chalmers I have ever owned... that being
said, yesterday I bought a 715-B sight unseen, and went to pick it up last
night. The old boy I bought it from said
that they had ran it out of oil and that the engine was seized. When I got home last night I wiped off the
serial # tag so I could order a service manual, and try to get an idea of
available parts. That’s when I started
having more questions than answers.
This backhoe Model says it is a 715-D, but the serial # looks to be double
stamped. it is either a 2469, or a
2569. How do I find out what year this
is? The web sites that I have found says “Unknown”.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 2:47pm |
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Does it have the allis chalmers 433t motor or perkins? Where are you located?
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 5:46pm |
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Whichever number is right, its a 1979...
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 7:16pm |
Hello AC89, I don't know which engine it has in it. I put eyes on the machine for the first time
last night at 5:00 p.m. and didn't get home with it until 9:00 and it was
dark. It never even occurred to me that
there were engine variances. I figured
that it would be as simple as looking up a serial number and year, and start
finding some literature on it.
On the tag is says:
NAME: 715-B-B/L
MODEL 715-D
SERIAL NO. 2469 (or 2569)
ENGINE SERIAL NO. 22682u599956E
DiyDave, that is awesome that you were able to find its
year. For my information, how were you able to find that? I began to stress this morning when I started
doing some internet research on the model “715-D”. When I looked on the TractorData.com (http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-loader/000/0/9/97-allis-chalmers-715c.html)
website is said that the 715-C was made from 1981 to 1985. So my assumption was that if a 715-D was a sequential
model, it’s manufacturer date would have had to come after 1985, and that seemed
to be in the years of lost documentation.
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/tractor-brands/allischalmers/allischalmers-tractors-industrial.html Thanks again for your help.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 7:32pm |
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If it is a allis chalmers 433t motor they where also in the 6000 series allis chalmers tractors and gleaner combines and possibly gen sets. If you want to rebuild you can still get most of the parts online through gensals.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 9:13pm |
 Daedalus wrote:
Hello AC89, I don't know which engine it has in it. I put eyes on the machine for the first time
last night at 5:00 p.m. and didn't get home with it until 9:00 and it was
dark. It never even occurred to me that
there were engine variances. I figured
that it would be as simple as looking up a serial number and year, and start
finding some literature on it.
On the tag is says:
NAME: 715-B-B/L
MODEL 715-D
SERIAL NO. 2469 (or 2569)
ENGINE SERIAL NO. 22682u599956E
DiyDave, that is awesome that you were able to find its
year. For my information, how were you able to find that? I began to stress this morning when I started
doing some internet research on the model “715-D”. When I looked on the TractorData.com (http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-loader/000/0/9/97-allis-chalmers-715c.html)
website is said that the 715-C was made from 1981 to 1985. So my assumption was that if a 715-D was a sequential
model, it’s manufacturer date would have had to come after 1985, and that seemed
to be in the years of lost documentation.
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/tractor-brands/allischalmers/allischalmers-tractors-industrial.html Thanks again for your help.
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Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 10:19am |
Hey, DiyDave, thanks for your help. It looks like Norms book is the Holy Grail of
A-C books... and its priced
accordingly...
I also re-learned something again... Fathers are still one of the best sources of
info. I talked to my Dad last night, and
told him that I had bought this backhoe. I told him that I was confused as to
what it was, because the Name was a "715-B" but the Model was a
"715-D". I told him that
DiyDave, said the serial # put it as a 1979, so I wasn't exactly sure what it
was... He was quiet for a second, and
said that he thought the "D" would have indicated that it was a Diesel. He said that most manufactures made both a gas and a diesel version their equipment. All of a sudden everything started making sense.
AC89, Thanks for the insight as to the other equipment that
used the A-C engine. Depending on what I
find, I might be able to just do an engine swap.
Thanks for all you help!
Edited by Daedalus - 03 Sep 2020 at 11:17am
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Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 1:56pm |
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My 715B - D is a 82 with a Perkins 4-236 engine with the late ROPES cab and a Digmore extend-a-hoe , early 715B uses a different style cab more boxy straight line type .
I believe other updates were added from first units and that is the area where prefex D was added to the 715B series .
I had looked at several 715 machines as local utility company had bought a group of them and they were phasing them out , I also looked at some 816 machines around the same time .
The unit i bought was traded into John Deer dealership for a new unit - and they gave me the name of the contact at municipality to find out other info on machine - after I bought it I went up to the shop for that city and got all the service records on machine since new - and probably $1.500 in spare parts they had in stock there for the machine .
Edited by Coke-in-MN - 03 Sep 2020 at 2:04pm
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