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Unit3
Orange Level Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Location: NC Iowa Points: 5532 |
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Posted: 11 Feb 2020 at 5:40pm |
If,,, if I were to build a heated shop, it hit me tonight, what if I were to use ground up corn cobs for insulation? A poor mans insulation. I have been looking at YouTube at all of these rocket stove and they burn wood pellets. They also like to burn waist oil. Waist oil I have and cobs I can get.
Back to the insulation, I could use 1-1/2" on the outside in between and behind the 6x6's in the pole shed next to the outside steel. But what if ground up cobs were used from the 1-1/2" foam broad to the interior siding? Hang plastic against the foam broad and the interior siding. What do you think? I picture a caster wheel cart pulled behind the Gleaner with an elevator catching cob off of the left side and putting them into a barge box wagon. The cart I already have.
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FREEDGUY
Orange Level Access Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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Sounds like an insect/rodent PARADISE LOL!!!Any idea of an R value? Fire rating? Good luck and keep us informed.
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chaskaduo
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As long as you can keep the material dry, varmint, and insect free, I guess the only drawback might be fire insurance.
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marion
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knew a guy had a sawmill and did a lot of planning lumber, had the brilliant idea of using shavings for attic insulation,, I think it was cedar shavings that did him in
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Unit3
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I will pass on this idea. I didn't think about varmints or fire. Oh well.
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FloydKS
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That is why we are here and why we all come here for advice... great bunch of inteligent , smart, and knoledgable people here, even if we cant';; spell.
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Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die
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desertjoe
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Well,,Chit,,Unit,,,you just never know,,,until you bring it up and get other opinions,,Ya know,,,,,,,,?? They's gotta be other good uses for all them by products,,,,,,,
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jaybmiller
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 22458 |
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re: They's gotta be other good uses for all them by products COMPOST ! Give back to Mother Nature what you took. I keep increasing my compost additions to the wife's veggie gardens and it's now a TREAT to rototill. Veggies grow real nice....
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Tbone95
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Gee......maybe that's what you get when you leave it in the field and work it into the soil like usual!
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Tbone95
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"Did him in" ????
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Andy E
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Play it safe get 4 politicians one in each corner That will give you enough HOT air to heat a 40 by 60 barn
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Ray54
Orange Level Access Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4519 |
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DANG We went political again. But I like it anyway. But Andy, it would be hard to get close tolerance work done. All that blabbering back and forth from the corners my brain would need better hearing protection than I have ever had so far. I was going back to keeping the heat in the shop and exit politics, but not really. Out here with Fruits and Nuts straw bale building was all the rage just a few years ago. Now I have not seen much in the fake news about it. They claimed mice didn't like rice straw(there claim not mine). I can say it takes a long time to rot away as they had some left over bales they left sitting at the neighbors. But they built pole barn type buildings. Filled the space between posts with bales of straw,covered in chicken wire then plaster. Ended up with a Spanish adobe look on the outside. We don't ever get much under 20 F out here but get over 100 in summer and the neighbors winery stays between 60 and 80 without any heating or cooling. I will have to ask about fire insurance as we are on the bad list. Got notice my house fire will be canceled because I live among the Fruits and Nuts.
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tadams(OH)
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You won't be able to put the corn cob against the metal cause the metal siding would sweat and the the corn cob would hold the moister and mold and rust out the siding.
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chaskaduo
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Ray I remember hearing a lot about that a few years ago, not to much any more. It is next to impossible in this state to get building code variance, unless your filthy rich or have a brother in right place. Us common folk who could benefit from these things haven't a chance.
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Unit3
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Still, I would like to have a 5 gallon bucket of crushed up cobs. I have a hankering to build one of them rocket stoves I see on youtube. They should make things hot.
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nella(Pa)
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Allentown, Pa. Points: 3102 |
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There was an icehouse a few miles from my farm and the owner made ice and did meat cutting in it and the walls were filled with 4 t0 5 inches of ground corn cobs. The walls were made out of thick tongue and groove boards.
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shameless dude
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cobs will also absorb any humidity there is (fast). and i'm sure they would settle down over time and leave gaps. I to had thought about straw bale walls for a new house, all the vids I saw used the small square bales, so I thought maybe using the big square bales instead, I then called the person that is sposed to be an expert on the straw building process and they told me the big bales wouldn't work (???????)! guess i'd try a small building with the cobs in the walls, use see through plexiglass on the inside walls so you can see what goes on in there.
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Alberta Phil
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And the critters in there can see out!!! LOL
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Ted J
Orange Level Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18821 |
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Plexiglass isn't cheap....but it's a good idee... Why not use news paper like they did back around the turn of the century? And then they burned the corn cobs for heat.
How much time are you going to be spending out there working in it Tim? They used to use cardboard also. If you asked all your neighbors to start saving their Amazon boxes..... |
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Ray54
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I am easy to intertain so I like the Shameless idea of plexiglass. Watch the ants eat the termites. I guess you would not need the whole wall see in. The bugs may want some privacy too.
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Ted J
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CTuckerNWIL
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The old Ice House on the old family farm still had traces of sawdust in the walls just 10 years ago when I had a guy come and put a new floor under it. It has inch sheathing on both sides of the 2x4's. I guess in the 1850's when the place was built, you didn't run to Home Depot to pick up bags of cellulose for the wall insulation
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tadams(OH)
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Maybe you need to have everyone save you the foam peanut they use for packing for insulation
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DiyDave
Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 51674 |
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Corn cobs have other uses, better than insulation. We usedta have a gallon can fulla sweet corn cobs, in the ole outhouse! Ever hear the expression rubbed him the wrong way?
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ac fleet
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When they chopped the papers, they are sprayed with a fire retardant of sorts, so you could do that with cobs too. Rodents and other vermin will be a problem.
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FREEDGUY
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Fiber Glass insulation will be your best bang for the $ IMO. Menards is the cheapest outlet I've seen BTW.
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Robert Musgrave
Silver Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: SE Wisconsin Points: 226 |
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Dad built a wood shop based on a chicken coop design--2"x6" stud construction, windows to the South, no windows on the East and North, and a small window to the West. Blown in insulation with a hinged inside inspection door between 2 studs--on opening the door you could see through the visquine vapor barrier at the insulation. Yes, it did settle a LITTLE but not much. Super insulation in the ceiling too. Nothing ever froze in there, even when the wood stove wasn't running. R. Musgrave
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Robert Musgrave
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P.S on the last post: tools and Cast Iron table saw top NEVER RUSTED in that Building, either summer nor winter, so in that respect, it works!
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Coke-in-MN
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Growing up there were 10 large, each 40 x 80 by 40 ft height, ice house storage building across the highway from our house . They cut ice from the lake on our side of the highway and hauled it about a 1/4 mile up the highway to the ice houses - much of that hauling was done by teams of horses . Later by kind of stripped down trucks as no license plated then needed to run on State highway .
Those 10 buildings were all connected wall to wall with like 10x10 upright timbers with 1x6 shiplap wall - in between was sawdust insulation - I can remember going up with a wagon and getting ice there - and also late in the summer exploring those buildings and seeing large ice blocks covered in sawdust as they spread that between the blocks and around them to keep them from freezing together into one big lump . I worked on doing some grading around a house built out of straw bales which then were sprayed with concrete - kind of between gunite and stucco as both inside and outside of building were sprayed to cover straw . Can't say It was a attractive looking structure inside or out . |
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Ted J
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I remember that ice storage too Coke. It was amazing to see ice sitting in a building like that with only sawdust all over the place. It worked!
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