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Wes Jackson 
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 5:53am |
I am looking for a good engine for my Fiat Allis 65 motor grader
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DMiller
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 8:06am |
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I do not believe this a Buda Engine if is the later version M65 or 65B. These were a re-engineer of the old DD series and contain a few cosmetically appearing similarities but I am fairly certain the DDs were the Allis series engines as Farm Tractors had and would expect the 65 to have a Fiat supplied engine. Any chance of Year of machine and if has a 65B designation? In 1974 they adopted a better engine for the 65s, the Fiat engines were installed after 1979.
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 8:16am |
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I stand corrected, is a Lanova D262 series if prior to 1979. If is a D262 may wish to try for a 4BT Cummins change over or look to NORAM as to how they attached a later model CNH engine into the M65 Frame.
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 8:22am |
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Mine is a model 65, I think early 70 model. What would be involved in changing over to a Cummins engine
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 9:50am |
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Will a Allis Chalmers 2900 fit this grader without a lot of mods, just weighing my options
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 10:01am |
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Most everything is side swapped, Fuel, Linkages etc, likely a better choice than a 4BT but would also have to find a flywheel compatible for the drive system or have one made for either. What is bad on the old engine?
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 10:20am |
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Plug came out of intake and the engine sucked in about an acre of dust which ate the pistons,rings etc. Rebuild kit is 2 grand and pistons and rings are back ordered, trying to get grader up and running
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 1:08pm |
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Could wind up spending WELL beyond the $2k and still not be up and running. Biggest concern is flywheel design for connection to the drive transmission, cannot duplicate that on a purchase you are at the beck and call of what are deemed "Prototype" or single product machine shops. I would shop around as could and dig deeper try to find the parts to get this engine together.
Other option, go on Machinery Trader and try to locate a Pre 1979 M65 engine complete or a second machine just for yours to become a parts provider.
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 3:53pm |
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Thanks for the help and advice.I was hoping to find a running engine but not having any luck, guess I will wait on pistons and rings and rebuild mine.
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 3:55pm |
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Believe will be better off at least $$$$ wise.
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Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 9:05pm |
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I stand corrected, is a Lanova D262 series if prior to 1979. If is a D262 may wish to try for a 4BT Cummins change over or look to NORAM as to how they attached a later model CNH engine into the M65 Frame. |
Would that have been the last Lanova system in production then?
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Posted: 18 Aug 2019 at 4:54pm |
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I am thinking so, but had the Roosa Master style Injection pump instead of the Rotary PSB.
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Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 5:42am |
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I found out the head is cracked so I have decided to sell this grader and a parts machine as well, block and crank are good, trans good,all hydralic cylinders rebuilt, make offer! Located near Florence SC
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Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 7:04pm |
you could fit a 262 gas motor pretty easy
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Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 9:29pm |
Did you get that head pressure tested?
A bloke here did up one of those motors on a DD. Said it had head cracks but they didn't go anywhere under test so they used it.
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Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 10:22pm |
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Cracks on Lanova heads are common. Both Oliver/Waukesha and Allis/Buda. They are usually not fatal.
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Wes Jackson
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Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 4:46am |
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I got the head back from the machine shop and the cracks are hairline cracks where the injector holes are, was told this is common on these engines. I allready bought another grader so this stuff is still for sale.
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Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 4:46pm |
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The Allis Chalmers Buda D262 has a Lavona combustion. I was used in D17 tractors and the M65 and DD graders among others.
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