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Thad in AR. 
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Posted: 17 Jun 2017 at 4:06pm |
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I'm looking T a 1937 m for sale. It's dual fuel and needs a starting tank. This thing looks to be very low hrs and in extremely good shape. I've seen it running ad a show about 5 years ago but it hasn't ran since. Motor isn't stuck and feels like good compression. He has all the original books and some kind of bog oil/grease can that comes with it. Hes asking 3500
Edited by Thad in AR. - 23 Jun 2017 at 8:57pm
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 17 Jun 2017 at 5:30pm |
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Sitting that long the steering clutches may be stuck and they are the last part you come to when tearing it apart. Not sure if you can pull it to see if the clutches are working or not?
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Thad in AR.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2017 at 6:10pm |
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Sitting that long the steering clutches may be stuck and they are the last part you come to when tearing it apart. Not sure if you can pull it to see if the clutches are working or not? |
I don't know if it means anything but it was just recently pulled out by the road to sell. it was sitting in a little shed until a couple weeks ago. Does this mean the steering clutches aren't stuck??? The owner is getting old and in bad health and doesn't remember much about it anymore.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2017 at 7:02pm |
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I'm just guessing but I would guess if the steering clutches were stuck there would be two ditches about the same width as the tracks leading up to where the machine stopped.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2017 at 8:55pm |
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Take someone with you that knows about tracks and undercarriage. I,d be more concerned about that than the clutches. At $3500 might be a tad high but if straight , not too far off the mark.Does it have a belt pulley,pto, or hydraulics. Starter,lights , generator and battery? All can ad to price. I would be very interested in the grease can. Not many of those around.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2017 at 9:04pm |
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It has PTO no blade or hydraulics. I see a pulley on the shaft that runs the magnito. I assume for a generator. It has no nstarter but a plate over the starter hole. I was wondering if it would have a ring gear on the flywheel? I looked at all the tracks and sprockets. Nothing has what looks like any wear at all. The draw bar hole is perfectly round. I don't know crawlers but this thing appears to be low har and very slick.
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Posted: 17 Jun 2017 at 9:29pm |
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It being a 37, probably has starter gear. And yes, pulley on mag side is for generator but I have seen several that had a starter and no charging system.
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Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 7:58am |
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Suppose this thing has a ring gear, would it be hard to find a starter to fit it??
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Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 8:05am |
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I see lots of M's on craigslist, and sure would like to have one someday. On craigslist, they are listed anywhere from 1,500 to 6 grand. From what I am hearing, this isn't a bad buy. Darrel
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Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 9:01am |
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The steering clutches could be stuck and it will roll free becouse main clutch is disengage steering clutches only let it turn right or left as far as a starter you need to find one for a dc case will fit all you need to do is drill the tapered lock hole for the locking bolt I have done this a couple times I have two m crawlers
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Posted: 18 Jun 2017 at 5:37pm |
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I was just told by my fiance (I hope I spelled that right) that I'm supposed to go pick up that crawler as soon as I get a chance.
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Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 8:19am |
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Thad,
Offer him what you feel is a good fair price and buy it! You want a M and he wants to sell it. Seems simple enough just come up with a price that both are happy with and you become the new owner. Also if you fiancee (sp) says go ahead then I would do it.
Post pictures. Sounds like a good machine, not wore out, like the stuff I drag home!
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Edited by Sugarmaker - 19 Jun 2017 at 3:01pm
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Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 9:16am |
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thad. I believe Fred in Pa has stated that a DC case starter will fit and work just need to drill a new locating hole in the nose? orginal starters were autolites i believe the DC case is a delco?
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Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 5:16pm |
Sugarmaker wrote:
Thad,
Offer him what you feel is a good fair price and buy it! You want a M and he wants to sell it. Seems simple enough just come up with a price that both are happy with and you become the new owner. Also if you fiancee (sp) says go ahead then I would do it.
Post pictures. Sounds like a good machine, not wore out, like the stuff I drag home!
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I agree Chris this thing is much nicer than most of the stuff you and I drag home. Sounds like the fiance (SP) done paid fer it. How can I pass that deal up. Wonder what it'll cost me in the long run??? LOL
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Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 7:33pm |
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Thad,
It will be priceless!
Cant wait to see the pictures of your new toy!
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Chris
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Posted: 19 Jun 2017 at 10:45pm |
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I have rebuilt starters on hand for the M and U, also for A
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Posted: 20 Jun 2017 at 12:33am |
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Take a picture of her sitting on it, in a bathing suit!
There has been an M on the Denver CL for months but now that I look, it's gone, think they were down to $6,000 from $7,000 a few months ago.
BTW there is a D17 Diesel in Estes Park, just listed, $5,000, needs battery's poor repaint job, lots of poor masking on the wheels, expect better for 5 grand!
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Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 8:17pm |
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She followed us home tonight. Kind of heavy for such a little critter. Pics to follow.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 8:55pm |
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Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 9:21pm |
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nice Thad!
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Posted: 23 Jun 2017 at 10:15pm |
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Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 4:52pm |
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I have a few questions about the ole beast. Can I get original looking seat cushons? It has the bottom only but I see wher sides and a back bolted on and saw them on a brocure that came with it. Would it have a muffler or just a straight pipe? It needs a new starting tank (its ditsilate) would one work from a WC such as the repro nes I've seen for sale? There will be many more questions.
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Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 8:13pm |
If you do a full on restoration John Hahn in Idaho makes the crawler seats to look original. But will cost $250 to $500 with arm rests and all. hahnseats@gmail.com 208.924.5538 208.924.7924 fax 509 E Main Craigmont ID 83523
For a working tractor make your own. Plywood for base and back,used foam from a couch or mattress,buy vinyl or canvas from upholstery shop. Use staple gun to attach to one side,fold like rapping a package. The hard part on this is figuring out hardware to attach back rest. Need to do some testing of what will be comfortable to operator,in the height of seat and leg room.
On a old Cat the original plywood was getting soft,slapped a new piece of 1/2 plywood on top of old. Took about a day to realize that moved me ahead just enough to that I needed to make more leg room by redoing the seat.
I believe most around here where straight pipe and in our fire season a spark arrester on top.
Edited by Ray54 - 25 Jun 2017 at 9:41pm
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Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 8:57pm |
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Ray do you have a phone number for John Hahn I would like to call him on seat and arm rests fro my 35 crawler
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Posted: 26 Jun 2017 at 1:12am |
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yes 1 from a WC will fit and Norm M has reproduction tanks.It would have had a straight pipe from factory or a muffler was an option i think.
hth
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