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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Would like to get new seat in my 200 that looks like original. Who would have them, thanks
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Charlie175 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6359 |
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I got my 190 seat from Speer Cushion Company. Good stuff!
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8224 |
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Wonder what their prices are ,,,
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Leadoff ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Location: Calgary Points: 283 |
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I purchased an exact match seat assembly, frame and cushions from a Serco Loaders supplier, for our 185(1975) Serco uses the Milsco (Milwaukee Seat Co) seats on their timber loaders, similar to the seats on the 1975 185 with the thick black cushions and grid type pillowing on the seat and back cushion. I believe Allis Chalmers used that style of seat in the 100 Series tractors in the mid/late seventies. The Serco Dealer was in Eganville, Ontario, but you should be able to find a Dealer in areas where tree harvesting equipment is sold. The Serco website has info on their dealer locations, and pictures of the seats on the various loaders they sell. It took me a year to track down the seat, but it was worth the hunt.
The new seat assembly is exactly the same as the seat that was on our brand new 185, when the dealer delivered it to our farm in May, 1975!!! |
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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Joe(TX) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1682 |
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I bought seat cushions made by K&M. They have steel cores unlike some made with wooden cores.
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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A
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Charlie175 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6359 |
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Mine with a Steel base, Super Deluxe Model, was $216 shipped
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Ok thanks I will look into it. Thanks
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Like joe said k m has steel cores and Speercushion has wood. The guy at k m asked about bolt patern though
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Chad (MN) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Location: sc minnesota Points: 288 |
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There are two different seat styles for the 200 (earlier & later serial numbers), hence the different bolt pattern. The older 200s would use the k&m seat AC210 bottom and back (vinyl or cloth). I don't remember the numbers for the newer seat.
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220 3-190XT 2-D19d D19g 5-D17 UC 3-WC 2-WD 3-WD45 CA C H3 7-AllCrops 14-plows 3-Gleaners Lawnmowers SC-equipment
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Leadoff ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Location: Calgary Points: 283 |
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Here is the Milsco seat on our 1975 185. As noted in my earlier post, it is an exact match, cushions, frame, to the original seat that came with the tractor. It bolted right on to the 185 seat base. |
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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Charlie175 ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Shenandoah, VA Points: 6359 |
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My Speer Base seat is medal. The curved portion and upper part are indeed wood.
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD |
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darrel in ND ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8686 |
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that's one mighty fine looking 185. Darrel |
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Leadoff I couldn't find it.
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Leadoff ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Location: Calgary Points: 283 |
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Mike,
Go to www.sercoloaders.com There is a dealer in Syracuse, Frank Tartaglia, 5867 East Molloy Road, 315-455-0100 The website has pics of the seat on the loaders. Good luck. Let me know if you would like to discuss further |
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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Oh thank you ill try that
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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There's no slids on them right
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8224 |
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Dang Charlie that's a pretty good deal
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Leadoff ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Location: Calgary Points: 283 |
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Mike,
Serco Loaders sell and service the loaders. The seats are a replacement part for the factory installed seat. From what I could understand from the dealer I called they sell a lot of the seats, probably due to the working conditions for the losders, outdoors all the time, in the bush!! I sent the dealer a picture of my old seat and he confirmed the new one was an exact match. Perhaps your dealer in Syracuse could do the same. A Milsco rep in Milwaukee gave me the lead to Serco Loaders / Two Harbours Machine in Minnesota. He was very elusive as to why these seats are not available to the normal tractor seat replacement suppliers network on the Internet. Then again, the whole transition from Allis Chalmers to what it is today is a sad story. Good luck with your seat purchase |
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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Ok thank you for your help.
They had me call the port vile ny and that guy said the seat costs $428 and the arm rest kit is $219 |
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TimNearFortWorth ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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That 185 is my new screen saver, sure is nice looking.
Added benefit of seeing where my new to me 185 has had some lines run that I did not think were original on the hyd pump. Pic are always nice, especially when the unit looks that good. |
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Leadoff ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Location: Calgary Points: 283 |
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Mike,
Good to hear you have a dealer and seat choice if you proceed with the Milsco seat. I can assure you the quality is the same as the original from Allis Chalmers - our lasted for 30 years, however it was protected by a cab. Darrel, Tim, Thank-you for the feedback. The 185 was one of the best from Allis Chalmers. The extra hoses and filter beside the engine oil filter were from the Year-Around Cab that was on the tractor for its working days on the farm. The cab heater glycol water loop went thru the filter. The front wheels were reversed to handle larger tires, and it needs a new muffler!!! The rest of the tractor is factory, with some new paint and decals. |
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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Leadoff I'm going to set up a order for the seat you have hooked me up with. We will see how it goes. Thanks for the help
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Leadoff ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Location: Calgary Points: 283 |
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Mike,
Congrats. I have been very satisfied with my seat. Allis Chalmers put a lot of those seats into their tractors in the mid seventies. |
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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Is it the same company that made them for allis.
The parts guy says you don't want this seat lol. Pricey |
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Leadoff you were right the seat looks great. Although I haven't gottin it in the tractor yet. It looks identical as the originals and well built. Thanks
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Leadoff ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Location: Calgary Points: 283 |
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Mike,
Congrats on your new seat. It's great to see AC owners make the effort to maintain their equipment and replace worn items with original parts. I found the replacement Milsco Seat assembly to not only look just like the original factory issue but is just as comfortable. Good luck with your installation!!! |
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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Bump for the forum member looking for a seat
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Bump for another forum member to see. Leadoff hope you see this again and could show your picture of your seat. I don't have a picture handy. I hope the seats are still available I went on milsco site and didn't see the seat we bought.
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Leadoff ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Oct 2016 Location: Calgary Points: 283 |
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Here is the pic of the seat on the 185 - I had removed it from the website to save memory space, but will leave it up for a while. As noted previously in the posts above, Serco Loaders (forestry equipment) supplied the seat from their spare parts inventory at the local dealership. The Serco Dealer told me they sell a lot of the seats, due to the harsh working environment of the loaders. Their website loader pics shows the seat on all of their loaders. A quick phone call to the local Serco Dealer should confirm availability. Milsco (Milwaukee Seat Co) were very elusive when I talked to them about the seat several years ago. They were the original supplier to Allis Chalmers in the mid/late seventies, when the seats were installed into the 100 Series Tractors and other models. The Milsco rep would not discuss why the seat was not available to the numerous tractor seat suppliers that service the market. He finally relented, when I explained to him I was just trying to fix up my old Allis Chalmers tractor to original equipment, and provided the lead to Serco Loaders. |
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1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8580 |
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Thanks
I got mine from Portvile truck 716-933-8752 they sell Serco loaders, I had them send me pictures to be sure. I be leave part number is SERHH1005 and SERHH1106 Edited by Mikez - 05 Jan 2020 at 11:23pm |
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