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    Posted: 31 Oct 2016 at 11:00pm
just wondering if it would be possible to haul home a WD and a C (both narrow front). On one trailer facing each other. Its a 16ft x 7ft trailer. I would back the WD on first then drive the C on forward. Both at a slight angle. Doable?

i know the trailer can handle the weight i just dont know if there is enough room! and its a long drive back dont want to make 2 trips

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I would say it's doable.
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i would back the little one on first' turn front end over to one side an the wd on the back so you hitch weight won't be as bad may work fine.
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 That should work just fine. put the "C" on first then the "WD".
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Did it with my WC and my boys C.  Backed the WC on, turned the front to one side a bit, then drove his C on and turned the front the opposite way as the WC. 7' may feel a bit narrow, but it should be just fine.
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16 foot is a little short. Watch the weight on the hitching point.  Because they fit does not mean it pulls well.  A lot depends on what it is being pulled with and its tires.  
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With my old trailer, I would frequently haul 2 wc's or a wc and an rc together on an 18 ft trailer.  With a C, you'll probably fit on a 16, but it will be tight.  Yes, they must be angled.  But I disagree with the advice above.  if you put the WD on the back, you will really feel the tail of the trailer swaying.  I would put the WD on first.
I once tried loading a B on first, and then put the RC on the back.  Bad decision, had to go home and swap them around.
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thanks for the advice guys. i have a 97 F250
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Load balance is everything. I pulled this load at turn pike and highway speeds for years. When not properly balanced the load tends to make you feel like your on ice. Trailer axle location makes different trailers pull different.  With 40 years of hauling equipment on trailers I could never tell which tractor would be loaded first without being familiar with the truck and trailer.

 
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Since its very unlkely you have a tongue weight scale on the rig you would benefit by making some sort of measurement of the tongue weight.

I can suggest a couple ways. If there is a tongue jack on the trailer with the trailer hitched to the truck, crank down the tongue jack until it just touches the ground. Load the tractors, if the jack has lifted into the air the tongue weight is negative and the tractors should be moved forward or swapped. if the jack is hard on the ground, raise it and watch the truck rear go down. If its more than a couple inches, probably tongue weight is on the high side. Should have checked the rise of the truck front bumper when lifting the jack. If that is more than a couple inches the tongue weight may be a little much. If the trailer has load equalizers its time to put them to work to spread the load to the truck front wheels and get the truck back towards level.

Or simply measure the distance from the trailer hitch to the ground with a steel tape or metal yard stick while noting the front bumper height and load and measure the changes in truck attitude to check the tongue weight. You don't want the trailer load lifting the back of the truck, nor squashing the truck rear and raising the front a lot.

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Dick.....I agree balance is everything.  I just bought a 22 ft to take the place of the 18.
Axles are way in the back......whole new learning experience....
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Gerald I like you use the jack as a guided only slightly different I set the jack about 2 3 inches off the ground load until it just touches chain down but most importantly don't forget to fold the jack up.   

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Yes a dragging jack has a short life and for a while tends to impede progress.

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This is how I did mine.
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nice truck i have the same one only its a ext cab longbed instead of 4 door shortbed. id rather have yours! the rear seat on mine is so small and hard to get in nobody wants to ride back there!
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What Dick and Gerald said. Also there can be a difference in how a bumper hitch and a gooseneck are loaded.
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I usually just look at the rear tires. I pull forwad until the rear tires have about the same clearance in the finder wells as the front. Usually the back tires ride a couple inches higher. Too much tongue weight is just as bad as too little. Last month I pulled an 18' flex head on an old running gear loaded on my 16' bumper trailer home from Iowa 300 miles with my F150 eco boost. I had the wobble box loaded to the front and let about 3' hang over the back. I could not have balanced the load better if I tried. Pulled like a dream. We have a 1 ton diesel and 25' gooseneck but my half ton is a lot more comfortable on long trips.
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Bumper pull car trailer type? Do they both run? IF they don't run, put the bigger one up front. If you find it sways, it's a long trip home at 35-40 mph.
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Dick is that truck a converted VAN?
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With a 16' trailer, you aren't going to have much (if any) "wiggle" room to move things around. I always found that a WC/WD takes about 11' on a truck/trailer.

You should be able to fit them, but I agree with you putting the heavier tractor on first, so you have enough tongue weight. In addition to sway with not enough tongue weight, there is always an increased chance of the trailer coming unhooked.
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The trailer in my picture is 16'. I'd have had more room if the C didn't have the front cultivator bar on and if the WC had the tires spin narrow. WC with the C parked tight in the garage needs just under 15'.
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I run a bumper hitch, and would have the heavy tractor on the rear to avoid too much tongue weight. Where the trailer axles are placed is very important as to how the load is distributed on the trailers bed. The trailer in the picture has the axles far back and that's why I'd have the WC on the rear for my F150 truck.
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Originally posted by corbinstein corbinstein wrote:

Dick is that truck a converted VAN?
I like it!

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I once hauled 3 Oliver 880 wide front tractors over 250 miles on a 20ft trailer pulled by a 3/4 ton Ford truck so anything is possible.Some assembly required when I got home.
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you shouldn't have a problem at all, I got 2 45s both wide fronts on an 18 foot trailer once so a c and wd both narrow will be a cake walk
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Two WD45's with wide fronts on an 18 ft trailer?? Must have been 18 ft with a 4 ft beaver tail ?? making it 22 ft ??
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With a bumper hitch, a weight distribution hitch is very nice.

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Dick, "I never finished it"....? I thought I had a lock on that lol. I gotta work on that. Bob@allisdowneast
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