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orangereborn 
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Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 12:13pm |
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When painting with paint hardners outside, is the full-hood supplied air respirators essential, recommmended or ? Would like to try hardners but want to live to tell about how good it worked. Checked rental places to give it a try but no one rents the hoods. Some say the hardner is just hype and go without it. If hardner works for me, I won't mind buying the equipment as I would also be useing it inside. And suggestions? TIA...Dale
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Rick of HopeIN
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Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 4:37pm |
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I found an inexpensive air supply setup with hood when I started. It has worked for me. The lens gets a bit hard to see thru, always get some fogging.
http://www.turbineproducts.com/fresh-air-respirators.html
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gary ny
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Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 5:14pm |
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the hardener helps the paint with drying and will give you a better shine in most cases.A charcoal mask will work for you but buy new filters and the put it right in a plastic bag when your finished to hepl preserve the filters
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GT in Indiana
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Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 8:52pm |
Go to the paint manufacturer's website and look for the MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet). In section 8 of the document it will list PPE requirements (Personal Protective Equipment) to use. A cartridge type respirator may be sufficient as long as you have the right cartridges.
Safety First, safe always!
GT
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orangereborn
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Posted: 14 Apr 2010 at 11:03am |
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Rick of HopeIN ...Thanks for the tip. Ordered one this morning......Dale
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 14 Apr 2010 at 12:03pm |
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I got a mask at Napa that was specifically intended to protect from the type of paint/hardener I was using when I painted my Oliver 60. It was like $75, but well worth it to stop the fumes/exposure. If you wear glasses and can't see well enough without them like me, a hood with remote air supply would be the way to go. I still have paint overspray on my glasses.
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Rick of HopeIN
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Posted: 14 Apr 2010 at 6:07pm |
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I was told that even the good charcoal mask is dicey with hardeners unless you have a real downdraft paint booth. Father in Law agrees, he was diag with cancer after too many years of painting and body work with simple dust masks. Had to retire, sell his shop and sell most of his nice car collection.
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 14 Apr 2010 at 9:22pm |
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theoretically the charcoal mask is not quite good enough.. specifically in enclosed space. i pant outside with a small breeze to my back and use the half mask.. works good for me, but only doing 1 tractor or truck per year... the paper dust mask is a no-no with hardener.
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Toscani SD
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Posted: 14 Apr 2010 at 9:27pm |
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i've been painting for 23 years with out fresh air hood and i'm still alive,just get a good face mask 3m or sas what i use
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orangereborn
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010 at 12:37pm |
I purchased Agco paint and hardner yesterday. No directions on the hardner as to amount to use. After talking to 6 people at Valspar they decided it should be 8-1-1
(paint-hardner-reducer) with synthetic enamel thinner. 16-1-1 if using acetone or (zylene?). Experts, what say you?
Thanks....Dale
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Posted: 20 Apr 2010 at 4:23pm |
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NEVER scrimp on paint masks!!!
A positive pressure full paint mask with tear off lenses is the only way to go safely.
Wear a paint suit with hood and gloves.
The human body can only tolerate only so much exposure to chemicals until a problem occurs. Each individual will have his own tolerance level.
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