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FREEDGUY 
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 Topic: The "New" Movement To Cordless ??
Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 6:38pm |
Is it just me, or is our environment headed towards a NEW downfall ; the LITHIUM ION powered cordless tools ?? By and large, you guys CAN NOT tell me that the majority of "users" of these batteries "lawfully" dispose of them   . Throwing a AAA alkaline remote control battery is 1 thing, but a 24/36 volt LI ??
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DMiller
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Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 6:46pm |
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Nearly ALL trash not buried in a farm ditch is sent to a transfer station these days, is sorted and separated as well recyclable materials attended to. LiO batteries as well NiCad batteries are generally caught.
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ZachD89
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Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 6:46pm |
I would be more worried about what’s going to happen to all the junk batteries in these new GREAT electric cars and trucks  Most people most likely throw them in the trash and then off to the land fill. Going GREEN is so GREAT 
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 6:56pm |
 DMiller wrote:
Nearly ALL trash not buried in a farm ditch is sent to a transfer station these days, is sorted and separated as well recyclable materials attended to. LiO batteries as well NiCad batteries are generally caught. |
That is a great thing to hear, I hope it's the same everywhere
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Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 7:09pm |
ZachD89 wrote:
I would be more worried about what’s going to happen to all the junk batteries in these new GREAT electric cars and trucks Most people most likely throw them in the trash and then off to the land fill. Going GREEN is so GREAT |
I can't wait for MORE electric vehicles to get on the road , this will lower the price of gasoline for my TRUE work vehicle  . There will be NO throwing away a massive electric vehicle battery in the local landfill due to the "core" charges of them  !!
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Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 10:23pm |
DMiller wrote:
Nearly ALL trash not buried in a farm ditch is sent to a transfer station these days, is sorted and separated as well recyclable materials attended to. LiO batteries as well NiCad batteries are generally caught. |
No such thing as a transfer station around here. Garbage comes right out of the trucks onto the working face. Pushed up the slope with a dozer and run over with a 90,000 trash compactor. This is my week in the dozer. Next week I'm the packer operator.
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Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 10:51pm |
well we just had this conversation at dinner. Neighbor has trucking company. One of his ex employees was there shooting the sh$$, he works for power company now. That just bought the new fully electric backhoe. The batteries cost something like $80k and I forget what he said for longevity on charge. But he was saying with the other backhoes the operators would drive to emergency call and back. Now they will need to trailer it as I won’t make I back to shop. But then they were talking about the batteries and just so happens another guy was there from a large scrap yard company. He said the will not take any of these new cars trucks or anything with them new batteries. Guess There really isn’t anything of value for scrap and recycling in them and they are dangerous for shocking or something. There’s no easy was to truly kill juice. As for the cordless drill batteries and stuff. I don’t believe people are taking the time to do it the (right) way if there is. And just tossing them in the trash. I can see all this on that television show mysteries of the abandoned in the future
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Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 5:19am |
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So in one post you are condemning cordless tools, but then you can’t wait for more electric cars? What you gonna do when your car goes dead waiting on the train?
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Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 8:39am |
What you gonna do when your car goes dead waiting on the train?
Edited by steve(ill) - 12 Jun 2021 at 8:40am
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Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 9:02am |
FREEDGUY wrote:
ZachD89 wrote:
I would be more worried about what’s going to happen to all the junk batteries in these new GREAT electric cars and trucks Most people most likely throw them in the trash and then off to the land fill. Going GREEN is so GREAT |
I can't wait for MORE electric vehicles to get on the road , this will lower the price of gasoline for my TRUE work vehicle . If you believe that, I have some property to sell you in Florida! There will be NO throwing away a massive electric vehicle battery in the local landfill due to the "core" charges of them !! probably true, but the real question is how will they be disposed of, and how much will it cost in real dollars and resources to do so |
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Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 10:18am |
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Some of the guys at work are going completely cordless table saws, chop saws nail guns and air compressor.
None of this stuff lasts as long as corded stuff and it costs way more.
I’ve seen bad luck with table saws and chop saws.
I do have a couple 20v Dewalt trim guns. I use them for punch list stuff and not production work.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 1:45pm |
People will move to electric vehicles because gas prices are high and will not come down, that's the plan. As for disposing of vehicles, try to get rid of a Prius, number 1; they won't take it unless the batteries are removed, then, number 2; (appropriately numbered), they charge you to take it. Just like trying to dispose of a tv only bigger.
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Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 2:00pm |
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Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 5:44pm |
Jordan(OH) wrote:
So in one post you are condemning cordless tools, but then you can’t wait for more electric cars? What you gonna do when your car goes dead waiting on the train? |
Post of the year nominee!
You got my vote!
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Posted: 12 Jun 2021 at 8:02pm |
I don't consider a $30,000+ vehicle a "tool", a $250 drill/driver combo-YES
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Posted: 13 Jun 2021 at 8:24am |
truckerfarmer wrote:
DMiller wrote:
Nearly ALL trash not buried in a farm ditch is sent to a transfer station these days, is sorted and separated as well recyclable materials attended to. LiO batteries as well NiCad batteries are generally caught. |
No such thing as a transfer station around here. Garbage comes right out of the trucks onto the working face. Pushed up the slope with a dozer and run over with a 90,000 trash compactor. This is my week in the dozer. Next week I'm the packer operator. |
X2, never even heard of one of those animals in these parts. |
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Posted: 13 Jun 2021 at 9:07am |
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Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 7:03am |
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A vehicle is a tool the same as a tractor, drill, or hammer.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 9:41am |
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A fate worse than death, battery operated tools went dead on the job,went home early,get stuck at the RR tracks waiting on the train,the car battery dies while your waiting at the tracks,all this before happy hour & a stop by the beer store.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2021 at 1:35pm |
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Posted: 15 Jun 2021 at 6:01pm |
On a serious note, I just witnessed a Makita commercial for a cordless lawn mower- it takes FOUR batteries at $120/battery  . This trend towards "cordless tools" is out of control IMO  .
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Posted: 15 Jun 2021 at 7:16pm |
6500 Canucks gets you a battery powered CubCadet 42" rider up here.. ..$1500 for a gasser
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Posted: 15 Jun 2021 at 7:20pm |
jaybmiller wrote:
6500 Canucks gets you a battery powered CubCadet 42" rider up here.. ..$1500 for a gasser
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 5:10am |
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 5:26am |
The problem with virtually ALL 'battery powered' equipment IS the batteries. expensive to make, expensive to use, expensive to get rid of( recycle ?,hahaha) we all know it's cheaper to buy a 'drill/driver/batts/charger' combo kit than ONE battery.. yeah, I've got 2 still in boxes here.. Was given a battery lawnmower...yup, battery costs MORE than a whole new gas mower...... still waiting for Ford to tell me the cost to replace battery in 2022 F150 Lightning, since they put a price tag on the truck, they HAVE to know what the battery costs.... Battery powered 'stuff' seems to be the current 'game in town'. everyone focussed on the technology, but not what it actually costs us(environmental disasters...economy..etc)
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 5:55pm |
If the ground water is that close out here the landfill will have a pit liner and obviously all landfills have ground water monitoring wells. We even have monitoring wells at our county dump and there is about 250 feet of shale that separates the hole from first water. Freed where I grew up the well tested high in nitrates and it’s a 450 foot well with 350 feet of shale before sandstone. It was still safe to drink we all just grew a little more than normal.
Edited by Kansas99 - 16 Jun 2021 at 6:00pm
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 6:00pm |
Are you willing to bet the health of your grandchildren on your "facts" ? These L/I batteries in the portable tools are an accident waiting to happen underground IMO  |
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 6:10pm |
Never stated any “facts” just what is done out here to protect ground water. I’ll bet if my grandchildren live off the water at my place they won’t have to worry about drinking batteries. From what I’ve seen of some of these youngins eating and drinking various chemicals, mixing Li batteries and water might be the new craze in a year or two.
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Posted: 16 Jun 2021 at 7:40pm |
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@FREEDGUY; "MO guys"? WTF?
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