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DakotaSteve
Orange Level Joined: 26 Apr 2017 Location: SD Points: 715 |
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Posted: 29 Jul 2017 at 8:26pm |
I just recently spotted this threshing machine. The fella is willing to part with it. Could someone tell me more about it? Can a person still get the belts? Am I crazy for thinking I could get this up and running? I have done a lot of fabrication work and am a mechanic by trade.[IMG]uploads/16988/2017-07-29_20_2017-07-29_20-21-51.13_2017-07-29_20-21-51.32_2017-07-29_20-21-51.jpg[/IMG
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8391 |
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Looks good to me! I'd fix it up! Even if someone was just a shade tree mechanic, it shouldn't be a hard project, so you'll probably breeze through it with your background. To my knowledge, there aren't many of those around.
I believe those are Rumelys painted orange, but I could be wrong. Yes, you can still get/make belts. Just simple flat belts with splicing in them. |
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DakotaSteve
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Some of the wood inside gas gone but i think i can make it unless someone makes parts. I just havent seen many AC threshers. Thanks for your post.
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CrestonM
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No problem!
The wood parts should be easy. I rebuilt the left half of the straw rack on one of my 60A All-Crops, but that's a bit smaller than a thrasher. Lol If you have a bandsaw or tablesaw that will make it much easier |
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DakotaSteve
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Yup this will need that. Are their any companies that specialize in these? As far as helping with parts....or manuals...?
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CrestonM
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That'll be a question for somebody else....eBay might have a manual...maybe...I bet one of the vendors at Hutch had one. Those guys had original manuals/brochures for everything!
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DakotaSteve
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I bet i picked up close to 40 manuals there. Great reference material! I didnt know about this thresher then.
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Armand(AZ)
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Steve, wasn't there a machine at Hutch?? Seems I seen one operating there in years past. I have never seen a manual for one on Ebay and I check it daily. Pretty basic machine so it shouldn't be too hard to restore to running condition. Go for it!! LOL
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Ted in NE-OH
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Check with an Amish community they will know who has or makes parts for these.
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CA, WD, C, 3 Bs, 2 Gs, WC, I-400, 914
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DakotaSteve
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Yes i believe so and if need be i will check with the brass at hutch to see if i can take photos of certain things if it comes to that.
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DakotaSteve
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The Amish is a good idea Ted.
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DakotaSteve
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I should know by the weeks end if its all gonna come together. I will keep you guys posted.
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Ron Eggen
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Talk with Arland Lepper in Iowa, he has one. A guy in Kansas is/has kept a registry of them , mine is on it. They look a lot like a 60 combine. Good Luck. Go for it.
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DakotaSteve
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Ron, very good info. Could you message me more info for this fella or the registry?
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combinechris
Silver Level Joined: 20 Jul 2015 Location: wittenberg,Wi. Points: 424 |
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I have 2 of them. They are rumley machines painted the Allis Chalmers orange after Allis Chalmers bought rumley company. They used up the parts stock that rumley company had in it's inventory . Painted the machines,made a few changes to them and offered two sizes.
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35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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combinechris
Silver Level Joined: 20 Jul 2015 Location: wittenberg,Wi. Points: 424 |
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Dakota Steve do you need a manual for it?
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35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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DakotaSteve
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Chris, Thanks for the info. Yes any material would be appreciated. Where u located? Do yours operate?
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51ACWD
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I recently just purchased one of these as well. Many people claim that they are Rumely, and the larger sized threshers are, however; this one (22x38 thresher) is in fact Allis made. Yes, they used Rumely's design after they bought them out in 1931. My thresher is a 1936. Some of them say Rumely down the tailings elevator (diagonal elevator) and I believe even fewer had Allis-Chalmers down the side. Rumely's name was kept on some after the buyout as marketing material. Rumely was a well known name and Allis wanted their machine to sell. There were only 705 of these threshers made. As for belts, wouldn't be hard to find an old baler and pull the belts out of it and reuse them. That's my plan anyways!
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combinechris
Silver Level Joined: 20 Jul 2015 Location: wittenberg,Wi. Points: 424 |
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Both my 22x38 A-C threshers are all Rumley except for the few Allis parts used by Allis. Also my Rumley thresher looks identical except cosmetic changes to it.. also in my Rumley thresher literature book it shows the two sizes and compared side by side to Allis Chalmers they are the same machines. Allis Chalmers just used the inventory that Rumley had in stock til used up. So no Allis didn't build there own threshing machine. Allis Chalmers never had a threshing machine til they bought Rumley and dropped all but the two sizes which they sold under the allis name til inventory was depleted.
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35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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combinechris
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the 22x36 Allis Chalmers - Rumley threshers were built as distinctively A-C machines as a means of using up parts inventory from Rumely.
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35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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DakotaSteve
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All great info.
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TERDAL
Silver Level Joined: 26 Oct 2013 Location: Richmond, Mo. Points: 148 |
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As well to get info for our machine. Arland Leppers contact info
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Lonn
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Does the All-Crop design get anything from the Rumley or was the All-Crop a completely new machine.
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CrestonM
Orange Level Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8391 |
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The All-Crop got nothing from the Rumley threshers. They were a different animal all together.
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CJKile906
Bronze Level Joined: 06 Nov 2024 Location: Michigan Points: 27 |
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Im hoping this forum is still active and that someone could help me indetify make/ year/ model of this old Allis Chalmers/Rumley threshing machine my father in law wants to get restored. I'm going to create a post tonight and get pictures uploaded of this beautifuul machine, as comparing it to similar machines online my guessis; this one is either a 1935,36, or 37. But its hard to tell and we cant find a serial or model number anywhere. ANY HELP is much appreciated. Thanks in advance
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Mikez
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Welcome to the forum. Good luck. Sounds like an interesting project.
Creston is still on here and probably will have good info. Combinechris hasn’t been on here in a year but lists a email, maybe try that.
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combinechris
Silver Level Joined: 20 Jul 2015 Location: wittenberg,Wi. Points: 424 |
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The serial number for your threshing machine is on the left side up above and behind the cylinder pulley on the separator body when standing in front of the machine.
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35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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CJKile906
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what was the model of this thresher? Thanks in advance
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combinechris
Silver Level Joined: 20 Jul 2015 Location: wittenberg,Wi. Points: 424 |
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It's a 22x36 machine.
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35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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