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Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 7:31pm |
I stopped into a friends place this evening and a visitor brought up the "National Lampoons" vacation and had the opportunity to buy the "ORIGINAL" buggy at an auction years ago  . I asked "who" (manufactures) of the early '70's produced a station wagon and both of the guys said that Dodge/Plymouth had a station wagon but could not recall the "model designation". Are they correct that there was a MOPAR station wagon in the late '60's   ?? |
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Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 7:54pm |
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North American Truckster in the movie, maybe a Volare with rich corithian leather Boss Boss de plane de plane in reality.
Edited by Walker - 09 Sep 2021 at 7:58pm
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Posted: 09 Sep 2021 at 10:10pm |
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Chrysler had a station wagon in the late 60's/early 70's they called a "suburban", GM called theirs a "panel" at the time. i think i remember that Chrysler did have a BIG station wagon in the 70's, then there was a Dodge Monaco SW, there was a Fury SW, a plymouth belvadere sw, about all brands had them back then.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 9:54am |
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the wagon queen family truckster was a 1979 ford LDT country squire modified by warner brothers studio.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 5:00pm |
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Chryslers were 'Town and Country's', Dodge was a Monaco, Plymouth was actually a Sport Suburban and GMs Suburban to be was a Carryall until the 70s.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 7:21pm |
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We scrapped a 1960 Chevy brookwood station wagon at the farm two years ago. It was a interesting design but completely rusted from sitting in the pasture for many years. Hauled off a few Old vehicles cleaning out the pasture. Seemed a shame till I picked them up with the loader from the doors down there was nothing left every thing under the skin just crumpled and fell out.
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Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 7:49pm |
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Posted: 10 Sep 2021 at 10:22pm |
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believe the International was a carry-all?
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 6:44am |
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IH were Travel-alls
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 7:00am |
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Chevrolet had station wagons also.
Neighbor I worked for bought a Buick station wagon for his wife.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 1:51pm |
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Chevy Kingswood & Townsman, Buick Estate, Olds Vista Cruiser, Pontiac Safari.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 3:34pm |
In the 70's ever brand had a station wagon as one of the body choices to pick from in most body lines. I don't know if the Lincoln line from Ford had one but Cadillac from GM did.  But I don't think I ever saw one with seats in the back, all put together as a hearse  to haul coffins. Or maybe just not enough really rich people here that could afford the last ride being in a Lincoln, so everybody settled for riding in a Caddy.
Then you hooligans started adding pickup trucks to station wagons. Until now I would of said a station wagon was always a on a car running gear, but I guess a cargo van with seats is the same as a station wagon.
 So when did they start putting windows and seats in cargo vans like the Chevy Carryall or the IH Travel All that they competed with station wagons?
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 5:40pm |
Chev Carryall and IH Travelall both started around the same time in the 1950s, big business for railroads, utilities and construction companies for Personnel haulers. Expanded to Farmers then to Industries for again Personnel wagons in large factories or expansive farms needing to keep heads under roof, then expanded again to the general public.
Panel trucks have been around since the late 20s, these were a expansion of that theory with more seating and more doors, early Carryalls only had THREE passenger Doors, Driver on L and Two Passenger on R.
Many manufacturers also had Sedan Delivery CARS, would LOVE to get my hands on a undisturbed 55 Chevy model.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 6:24pm |
 DMiller wrote:
Chev Carryall and IH Travelall both started around the same time in the 1950s, big business for railroads, utilities and construction companies for Personnel haulers. Expanded to Farmers then to Industries for again Personnel wagons in large factories or expansive farms needing to keep heads under roof, then expanded again to the general public.
Panel trucks have been around since the late 20s, these were a expansion of that theory with more seating and more doors, early Carryalls only had THREE passenger Doors, Driver on L and Two Passenger on R.
Many manufacturers also had Sedan Delivery CARS, would LOVE to get my hands on a undisturbed 55 Chevy model.
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That is an AWESOME pic  !! I've yet to read /see that Dodge/Plymouth offered a station wagon in this era  . I'm going to "assume" that MOPAR did NOT offer an "ELCAMINO/RANCHERO version of a "caruk" ?
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 6:59pm |
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Closest 'thing' they had was a Omni sized "Rampage" that was utterly Useless. SOME old Valiant wagons had a Sliding Rear Roof where could place oversized materials in the slot. Was a Take away from the Studebaker absorb. Stude had their own and yes BOTH leaked like a sieve. Buddy of mine had the Valiant series, uncertain what year anymore.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 8:27pm |
Edited by steve(ill) - 11 Sep 2021 at 8:30pm
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 8:54pm |
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i had a Caddy hearse and a Buick estate wagon (still have it), used the Buick to pull my grain to the elevator for years. tough old bird...pulled 300 bu gravity flows full of grain with it. and before you ask/say...no i didn't have a problem stopping it either.
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Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 8:27am |
Chrysler corp had wagons back in the 50's. I'm just finishing up a Nova Wagon for Jo Jo. Her new "grocery getter". Powered by a late model Vortec Chevy V6. She'll be able to git' to the market quick n' back home again. 
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Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 8:29am |
Chevy Vortec V6 will get her around just fine.... LOL!
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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
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Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 8:52am |
Nice installation, Steve!! Jo Jo will probably keep those two Webers breathin' hard!! LOL
Looks like it'll be a mite tight for the manifolds or headers.
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Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 9:00am |
Phil, Manifolds fit in pretty nice. I used a exhaust manifold from a Bravada for the drivers' side, and a Forklift manifold for the passengers side. It was like they were made for it! Had to do quite a bit of research to see what would fit, but got it done. Yale uses the same engine in their forklifts. That right side manifold was the ticket! Steve@B&B
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Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 12:07pm |
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I figured by now one of you YouTube gurus would have posted James Gregory’s bit on station wagons. I haven’t found it yet but I’ve been laughing for 2 days trying to find it.
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Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 5:48pm |
Thank you for the PICS of the vintage MOPAR wagons Steve !!
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Posted: 14 Sep 2021 at 1:57pm |
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Many decades ago a friend of mine bought a used 1948 Ford "woody" station wagon. It was a great car and it would be a show piece today.
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Posted: 15 Sep 2021 at 1:46pm |
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My wife was watching Beverly Hillbillies last night and good example of the Dodge utility truck came up from Beverly Caterers. One of the early ones in black and white yet so my guess is 60 to 62 model.
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