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Speaking of Unusual Front Ends

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    Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 9:19am

Didn't want to hijack Osage's post so I'll start a new one.
Back in January of 2007 "JeremyMI" posted pictures of a very unusual NFE on a C
Unfortunately I did not save the narration from the thread but I did save the pictures.
As I recall, he got no responses to his inquiry of what it was.
It has always intrigued me as it looks like it could be factory.


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I missed that original thread. Neat - I hope someone can provide some info on it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Protrucker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 10:13am
I wonder if it's a Farmall narrow front put on the A/C?
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One way to get rid of that poorly designed steering box....
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I sent Jeremy a text, will try and find out what the front is off of.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian G.  NY Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 10:33am
Pro,
You may be onto something.
That upper steering shaft support looks a lot like a Farmall B.
I can't find a good enuf picture of the IH B front end on the internet to see
if it also looks like it.

Eldon,  I, too, always thought that big pitman arm and long drag link on the C and CA
detracted from their otherwise good looks.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DaveKamp Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 11:13am
I'll +1 for the possibility that it was adapted from some other machine... and a Farmall would be a strong possibility.

If so, whoever did it, was truely an artist!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve in NJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 11:31am
Doesn't a FarmAll cub have the same type of column? Might be pirated from a Cub?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richardmo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 11:50am
Here is the info i got from Jeremy.
I ask if was from different tractor manufactor what was it.

No that front end has am casting numbers on it from allis but the steering is outside the frame with no gearbox I have been told it is a prototype

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Protrucker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 1:43pm
Here's the best pictures I can show you for comparison of a Farmall BN front end:
 
 
 
 
 
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Yeah,
I found that one but the picture of the gear box is not too good.
From what I can make out, it looks different than the one on the C.
However, that picture led me to believe the steering shaft support is the same as the 
one on the Allis C.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 7:31pm
It could be a Farmall bulster with a C narrow front bolted to the bottom of it. Anyone know if the bulster bolt holes match up to a C narrow front support? Should be four bolt holes.

Anyone know who has that tractor? I would be interested in seeing pictures of it without a grill/radiator on it.

Edited by AJ - 20 Jan 2014 at 7:34pm
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Be interesting to know what the AM casting #'s are and which part of the front end they are on.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richardmo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2014 at 10:12pm
AJ
He is good friend of mine has lots of tractors
Right know he said the tractor in a shed hard to get to.
I will see if about the casting #..


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I wonder if the tractor serial number is a low one?  Dave.
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I would be interested in more info on this when it comes.
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Bump any new news on this front end?.
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That not a farmall front end. Looks to me like a Allis front with a old automotive box grafted into it the end of it looks just like my 52 chevy gearbox I use to have
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