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    Posted: 06 Feb 2011 at 10:33pm
that left fender looks like a good place to eat a lunch on
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yea but if you look close in the pics you can see where new mounts were made for the lift rams and on the back they made plates to attach the loader to the frame. On the front they cut out the pump mount and relocated to the side. I have a 8N that use to have a loader on it till we got tired of never being able to turn the steering wheel.
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I think that is a Wagner loader....and they were made for AC as well. I have one similar on an Allis RC.
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She runs like a champ. I really can't believe how good it runs. Maybe this week I will get around to getting rid of the loader. And yes the loader does stick out way far. I'm am also 100% sure its a ford loader.
 
Its actually not cobbed up to bad believe it or not. just the loader and fenders. the rest is still intact. Probably because the loader protected it.
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I would love to WF my WC.....I dont know why, I just like the looks of a WF. 
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Hey, you got the makins for a caravan buddy seat there in place of the left fender. That loader looks like it sticks out a  long way from the front.
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Well it looks a little cobbled up, but for a cup a coffee I think ya did done good... here's a pic of mine, a bit uncluttered
 


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I seem to be having some technical issues uploading photos. The ones I did manage to post came out kind of distorted. Maybe a mod can help me out.
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I will put up a pic tomorrow. Its buried in snow at the moment and i don't feel like shoveling lol.
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lets see a pic of that front end !!
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I have an OEM service manual for WD part #79003405 and it has a decent section for the FM mags, the pictures aren't much but the description is decent.
 
 
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U R spot on about I&T....don't even make a good comic book.
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I already have a I&T shop manual. Its probably the most worthless manual I own. I literally have over 100 different shop manuals ranging from garden tractors to semi's and this I&T shop manual is by far the worst.
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I have the same problem,more time them money and not much of either. as far as the mag timeing you should try to get a service manual. it will step you through it. you need to time the points with the rotor and the time the engine with the mag. My dad can do it in the dark but i have to work a little harder at it.  i can't give you any more tips then you already got.
 
Good luck i would love see it at a show some day.
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Originally posted by WC7610 WC7610 wrote:

Good for you!  You have something special and it sounds like you will take care of it.
 
Contrary to Don's post above,  when I read your original email, you didn't sound happy with the tractor and implied you didn't want to dump any money into it for repairs, tires, etc.  I read into it that you wanted a good loader tractor and wound up with this. 
 
On the contrary I never intended to use it as a loader tractor. I also didn't mean for my post to sound as if though i didn't want the tractor. I just don't have the extra money to dump into this project rite now. I didn't exaclty plan on getting it, it was just one of those deals I couldn't pass up. 
 
My mag is a FMJ 4B3. Does anyone know where I can get a cap for less then $55?
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Good for you!  You have something special and it sounds like you will take care of it.
 
Contrary to Don's post above,  when I read your original email, you didn't sound happy with the tractor and implied you didn't want to dump any money into it for repairs, tires, etc.  I read into it that you wanted a good loader tractor and wound up with this. 
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I got the price for the cap and rotor from my local dealer. The cheapest I have found  on the internet was $55 for the cap at tractorparts.com.  I will put the mag model number on here as soon as I get a chance to go look at it.

I'm not getting rid of the tractor nor parting it out. I will eventually get to fixing it up nice but right now I have a old case garden tractor I am re-doing and a 83 dodge p/u I am repainting. I just want to get the ac running and get the loader off. My sparkle wrench will take care of the loader this weekend and I will put up some good pics after.

 


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What ever you do hang on to that tractor it is rare and nice to have. The people who are telling you to get rid of it are wanting to see you sell it so they can get it. Hang on to it!!!!!!
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Norm Swinford's book shows a Styled WC with WFE on page 49.  He says that 1947 and 1948 production records offered an adjustable WFE.  I could scan the picture, but you should really get the book.  Vendors on this page sell them, but you can still get them from Norm, and if you ask him he will autograph it.  Got mine at TSC and the only autograph involved was mine on the check.  I use mine every day and it is starting to look like it.  Maybe I should get another before he discovers how much more it is worth with his signature on it.
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Where did you get prices on a cap and rotor for this WC? those prices are rediculos.

the vendors on this site are much more reasonable with there prices. A cap and rotor should not be more than $30.

I have seen those wide front's sell at auctions anywhere from $1000 for a bent one to up to $2600 for a nice one.

My opinion would to not use that style wide front with a loader.
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I'd advise you to put your tractor on EBAY and take the $$$ and go get a nice upgrade that you will like.
 
You might consider parting it out, you'd be amazed what you will get.
 
A WC isn't much of a loader tractor anyway. 
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If that's the wide front you've got, it's almost as rare as a 33 WC.  I really need to start hanging out with some of you deal finders.
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I would look around for used tires if you want it working without a lot of expense. Buy a new water pump, people that have had experience rebuilding them have said it will save you time and grief and maybe money  to buy new. If you look around, you might find a working mag at a swap meet or such for less money than the new parts but it might not work long.  
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 I got this pic off the internet. Thats the exact front end from my tractor. The only difference is that mine is styled.
 


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I will try to put up some pics tomorrow or sat. Its definatly a wc wide front. The only weird thing is that I haven't been able to find any pics of a styled wc with a wide front.

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Let us see some pictures. There is a big difference between a WC wide front end and a WD wide front that will bolt on a WC.
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