Some Allis 200 TLC

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   Evening Allis friends,

I'm wanting to do as much of a full service on an Allis 200 diesel that I can while I'm up at the farm for a week come July (as a reminder, I live/work in TX but have a family farm in OK).  I'm so good at "hiding" the service manual that I had to order another one but in the meantime, I'm needing some direction from everyone as this will be my first time to service this machine:

Oil
Shell Rotella 15-40 oil?
Dual oil filters but what brand and #...Napa?...Baldwin?

Antifreeze
Based on everything I've read on this forum, I'm really confused on this one.  I don't believe I have a coolant filter but it seems all I need is the right coolant with the additive anyway and I should be good?
What brand and name is best to simply "pour and forget" till the next change?...50/50 mix?
Forgive me, but, how do I flush the system and once I do, how many total gals are req'd?

Transmission/Hydraulics
Total dependence on everyone here on this.  Once I have the service manual, I'll know where the plugs and such are but what are the modern day fluids that should be used?  I'll admit that I don't have a thorough understanding of what/how these systems work but I'm learning! 

Fuel
Any advice for the fuel system that doesn't get that much use (tractor is started and ran every few months)?

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Mosin9130 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 23 Jul 2012 Location: North Texas Points: 136	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mosin9130 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Some Allis 200 TLC Posted: 05 Jun 2017 at 7:53pm
	Evening Allis friends, I'm wanting to do as much of a full service on an Allis 200 diesel that I can while I'm up at the farm for a week come July (as a reminder, I live/work in TX but have a family farm in OK). I'm so good at "hiding" the service manual that I had to order another one but in the meantime, I'm needing some direction from everyone as this will be my first time to service this machine: Oil Shell Rotella 15-40 oil? Dual oil filters but what brand and #...Napa?...Baldwin? Antifreeze Based on everything I've read on this forum, I'm really confused on this one. I don't believe I have a coolant filter but it seems all I need is the right coolant with the additive anyway and I should be good? What brand and name is best to simply "pour and forget" till the next change?...50/50 mix? Forgive me, but, how do I flush the system and once I do, how many total gals are req'd? Transmission/Hydraulics Total dependence on everyone here on this. Once I have the service manual, I'll know where the plugs and such are but what are the modern day fluids that should be used? I'll admit that I don't have a thorough understanding of what/how these systems work but I'm learning! Fuel Any advice for the fuel system that doesn't get that much use (tractor is started and ran every few months)?
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Lonn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29805	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lonn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 6:18am
	Tough to beat Baldwin filters but I usually use AGCO. Treat your fuel with something like Bio Kleen? Especially if using bio diesel. We never used to treat non bio diesel but Minnesota, the communist state that it is , will not allow you to buy non bio diesel and I've had 3 tractors act up because of bacteria growing in the fuel.
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darrel in ND Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8714	Post Options Post Reply Quote darrel in ND Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 8:21am
	As far as the anti freeze goes, I'd drain the radiator (should be a pad cock at the bottom) and the block (may be a pad cock or plug on the side of the block for that). Once it's empty, close er up and re-fill. In my tractors, I always use 50/50 anti freeze so I don't have to mess with water, and that way, also, I know that it is blended with good water. I buy my anti freeze at NAPA, but make sure that I get the heavy duty stuff; not the automotive stuff. That's just me talking, though. Others may have different ideas. Darrel

WF owner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 5009	Post Options Post Reply Quote WF owner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 9:16am
	Antifreeze never loses it's ability to keep it from freezing. What it does lose it the anti-corrosion abilities. There are several anti-freeze additives available that can be added without changing the antifreeze. If the antifreeze looks good, I, personally, would not change it. I would add an anti-corrosion (and possibly a water pump lubricant) additive. For the transmission/hydraulics, look on the side of the container to find one that says it is compatible with Allis Chalmers 821 Power Fluid. There are several companies that make compatible fluid. Filters - There are several good ones: NAPA, Baldwin, Wix, etc. Edited by WF owner - 06 Jun 2017 at 9:18am

SteveM C/IL Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Shelbyville IL Points: 8608	Post Options Post Reply Quote SteveM C/IL Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 12:27pm
	Car Quest,Napa and AGCO are Wix Edited by SteveM C/IL - 06 Jun 2017 at 12:28pm

WF owner Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 5009	Post Options Post Reply Quote WF owner Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 12:34pm
	...and for the oil, I've used Rotella for years and always had good luck with it.

Mosin9130 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 23 Jul 2012 Location: North Texas Points: 136	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mosin9130 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 3:02pm
	Ok, great suggestions so far! It sounds like either the Baldwin or Wix filter is good to go...anyone got a part #? Hmmm, not sure how good or new the anti freeze is but I do like the option of simply adding the additive...I'm assuming Napa has either so I'll check it out. Also, I'll see if Napa or Tractor Supply has the hydraulic fluid that is compatible. Agree that a fuel additive is needed and I've heard good things about Bio Kleen on the Powerstroke forums...I'll give it a go!
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KJCHRIS Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 21 Dec 2015 Location: WC Iowa Points: 954	Post Options Post Reply Quote KJCHRIS Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 3:56pm
	Don't forget the final drives!! They each hold 2 gallons. I use 75w-90 in mine. Saw 1 years ago that had been run dry, pretty expensive repair. a. Final Drives; 8 qts. , each. A/C Gear Lube #715 !?!? try to find that in stock!! The fill / check plugs are behind the 3 pt. cylinder anchor pins. Tricky to get them out & in. Just pull cotter pins and slide pins in flush to housing. b. Engine oil; 15 qts. w/Filters. Type, CD Diesel, I prefer Shell 15W-40. c. Power Director & Hydraulics, 28 qts. w/ filter. A/C power fluid 821 or equal. d. Transmission; 38 qts. A/C power fluid 821 or equal. e. Anti- freeze; Any name brand product should work. Fill to within 2" of radiator neck, any more will just get out the overflow when working it. I'm another that is willing to spend the extra for the 50/50 pre-mix lifetime, heavy duty for my equipment. Now that all of mine have been drained/ flushed/ refilled, I'll likely just top off as needed.
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DougG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8335	Post Options Post Reply Quote DougG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 6:21pm
	Don't use Tractor Supply hydraulic oil,, I've found it seems to be too thin, I always use Extreme Pure Flo, 565950,works great with A.C. tractors up to 85,, and that's our treasures!

Mosin9130 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 23 Jul 2012 Location: North Texas Points: 136	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mosin9130 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Jun 2017 at 6:33pm
	Didn't even think of the final drives, GOOD CALL...some research indicates just a good 80-90 wt oil will work. I've heard similar things about Tractor Supply so I'll avoid there...I'll track some of that Extreme Flo hydraulic oil down.
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