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   Believe that I found the problem with my B. there is a lot of slack in the splines between the rim and axle. Got to grind about 1/8" off the back of the rim to see if that will tighten it up,if not then I will have to change gear and shaft.

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Bodean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Location: Northeast Louis Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bodean Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 8:39am
	Believe that I found the problem with my B. there is a lot of slack in the splines between the rim and axle. Got to grind about 1/8" off the back of the rim to see if that will tighten it up,if not then I will have to change gear and shaft.

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Ken in Texas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Henderson, TX Points: 5919	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ken in Texas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 1:01pm
	Jeff Loose fitting axle splines (another problem) won't cause the final drive to lockup suddenly like you say. Pick the final you think is best and swap it out like you did on the C. You need to swap the hand brakes hardware to your finals footbrakes hardware Gear ratios on all B are same unlike a C. ve If the splines are loose when fitting the wheel (hub) with the big nut. I have wheels by them selves with good splines. Hard to tell by just lookin if both the axle splines and the hub splines fit tight. you got to feel it What are your plans for the B after you get it going? Edited by Ken in Texas - 02 Nov 2018 at 6:19am

PaulB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4401	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 2:02pm
	Ken: Yes I do have some 28" rims that will bolt to a CA, These are what I had on the turbo CA before I sold it. These centers will even fit the bolt pattern for your IH wheel weights. The rims are 15" wide. do you think you can handle 18.4X28s ? they will give you about a 2.6MPH at PTO speed and somewhere about 3.5 at near 2400 RPM for your grandpa gear classes Your 13.6X24 tires have a ground speed of just a tad over 2 MPH at PTO speed and barely about 3 MPH at 2400. What are you allowed for RPM? The B&C are about 2-3/4 MPH at 1500RPM with standard tires. That puts them right close to the 3.5MPH with the 12.4X28 rears. If Jeff would like a set of late model B final drives, I have then on the Build a B that's here. I will consider parting it out if the rear sells first. This has the C style hubs, not the early 5 bolt hubs that still use the spline axles. Also this has foot brakes with new bands. Maybe there are some other pulling parts that you'd desire that could make it worth a trip up here during your off season.
	If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY

Bodean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Location: Northeast Louis Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bodean Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 3:23pm
	Took pto cover off last night nothing wrong with rear end. The slack in the spines are making the noise. Don't believe I'm gonna pull it, got a grand son that I'm hoping will be interested in it (he's only six months old but never too early to get them started). Got a seven year old granddaughter I'm hoping will be pulling next year or two or three or four lol.

Bodean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Location: Northeast Louis Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bodean Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 3:24pm
	Where does Paul B live

DiyDave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50487	Post Options Post Reply Quote DiyDave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 6:01pm
	Near Fredneck, MD

Ken in Texas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Henderson, TX Points: 5919	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ken in Texas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 8:39pm
	It's Frederick All the RPMs you can get out of a CA without blowing it up Paul Don 't have A Tach So don't really know what I have at full throttle. This much I do know. I blow the horn at Highest Revs in Second Gear. Horn blows at 3.6 MPH I probably don't have the horses to run in second with 28" rubber. Jeff and I both used first in the 3000 Pulloff . Am I right Jeff. It was all in the tires that Gave Jeff a Advantage. Jeff made another full pull and had traction and power to pull himself out of the ball park. They finally determined a full pull was 181 feet. At first they had me ahead of Jeff by a foot at 182 feet Until I protested in Jeff's favor Getting both of us in a pulloff. You know the rest of the story. Sent me packing. Back to the drawing board. Edited by Ken in Texas - 01 Nov 2018 at 9:17pm

Bodean Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Location: Northeast Louis Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bodean Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 10:34pm
	Yes sir I was in 1st gear and you are right about running out of horses in second with a stock engine. You could probably get a little more rpms if you played with the governor spring although yours sounds like its turning pretty good. Just have to hold the throttle back until you get under a load then let her eat.

PaulB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4401	Post Options Post Reply Quote PaulB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 1:34am
	Ken: i was thinking you could run those big tires in low gear, no way for 2nd. That would get you close to the allowed 3.5MPH. It’s all about matching ground speed to your HP. Even a completely stock CA will never be short of HP in low gear at 2500 pounds unless extra tall tires are used to increase the ground speed. If you were to go back to a standard set of 11.2X24 tires and use 2nd gear you would be right at the 3.5. Increasing the engine speed is very simple. A little bit of changing the linkage geometry does the trick.
	If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY

Ken in Texas Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Henderson, TX Points: 5919	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ken in Texas Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 7:16am
	Did some adding up of numbers and came up with these. To be at 2496 at Shreveport I had 71 pounds of weights on the studs all the way up front to pull against Jeff's C in 2500 . I haven't weighed my 13 6 x24s on IH wheels with 11" MF rims. I would think the 28s Jeff Runs with Water or even without will outweigh my 24s. In 3000 I hung 5 100# suitcases. 4 behind the axle and 1 ahead under the toolbox door. 3500 hung another 500 like before. 4 and 1. No lifting the front with this setup. If and when I go to 28s I won't pull in 2500 and because of just 2 hooks concentrate on 3000 and 3500 with Bolt On weights in 3000 A pair of 135# IH wheel weights and a pair of 95# CA engine side weights together weigh 460. The unknown is the difference in weight of 28s over 24s . I can loose the 71# off the front plus the belly weight brackets . There are actually two 3000# classes . Farm stock and Competition. Tractors with Factory bolt on weights and or water can compete in Farm Stock. Any other hang on weights put you in the Comp division You can get your 2 allowed hooks in without changing weight Edited by Ken in Texas - 02 Nov 2018 at 7:23am