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 Posted: 06 Dec 2025 at 10:23am |
Guys, Dog talk today. I have installed an antique dog training system. Not sure the age? maybe 20 years. Never used system found on Facebook. Ok so it came with 500 feet of small Guage wire and a roll of much heavier wire that was 1000 feet. I chose to go with the heavier and layed out the wire, tested it above ground and then proceeded to dig a trench a few inches deep to bury the wire. That was a month ago. The ground was muddy in our clay. The rental digger did not work well. I changed over to a single bladed gas powered small rototiller that kind of worked better than digging by hand. Then had to hand bury and cover the wire. I am too old for this stuff! I put flags where the wire is located. That was not where they were supposed to go they are supposed to be inboard where the collar beeps some distance from the wire. Makes sense after I read the book! Duke has been bringing the flags back to the shop during his play time. Just started the first training sessions with the pup. Going ok. Collar is in beep mode only and when we hear the beep we bring him back away from the wire. Seems to bed working ok. a week or so of this and then we move to the shocking portion of the trading. Duke seems smart and is very sensitive. More on the outcome of this later. Our previous dogs, we let run loose. Not the best for other families in the neighborhood. The neighborhood has gotten more families and more dogs, and is more like a rural subdivision since we moved here almost 40 years ago. Guess we are trying to be better neighbors?
Regards, Chris and Cheryl
Edited by Sugarmaker - 06 Dec 2025 at 10:29am
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Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 6:36am |
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Great stuff Chris! Duke looks like he's been part of the family for years.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2025 at 11:44am |
Folks, Thanks giving in the shop was a success. The heated floors are the ticket for a comfortable place for our family to be comfortable. OK more baby pictures:
Also had 7th birthday party for our Great Grand daughter yesterday, hence the hats!
I have the wood for the sliding doors drying in the sugar house. The white steel and trim is ordered for the bottom. I need to get the 2 x 4 wood for the frame work. Regards, Chris and Cheryl
Edited by Sugarmaker - 01 Dec 2025 at 11:50am
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Posted: 24 Nov 2025 at 5:19pm |
tadams, folks, Duke has us wrapped. I had a small area on the truck paint wrinkle. Again I probably had the gray paint a little too thick. Going to wait a day between coats of the clear chip guard. Please remind me to not use this stuff again! Maybe it will last till we get a new truck? No snow here yet. Most of our family will be here for Thanksgiving dinner in the shop. It works great for the kids and us old folks too. Happy Thanksgiving to all the Allis folks! Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 24 Nov 2025 at 2:11pm |
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And he knows who to snuggle up to the boss. He's cute. You might try the paint they put in the bed of a pickup.
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Posted: 23 Nov 2025 at 7:56pm |
Guys, I may try to apply the chip guard on these lower rear areas of the truck again. This time very light coat and let it dry for a day or so. We have been enjoying the new pup in the shop. Duke may be the nicest Golden we have owned. Still being a pup for sure. Learning and growing.
Sometimes we have to rest.
Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 19 Nov 2025 at 3:18pm |
Better than my own paint work.
I gave up on attempts to control rock dings, will just run em for a trophy then to the shredder they'll go.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2025 at 1:38pm |
Noby wil know that you done that if you hadn't told use. Looks good
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Posted: 14 Nov 2025 at 8:46pm |
Folks, I used the truck lift as an aid to do some paint removal. This area gets stone chips and a lot of salt.
Well I am not a painter so still learning about spraing on chip guard. Sounds easy. But I have several failures with this product. Stripped and tried again. Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 28 Oct 2025 at 7:11pm |
Mike, A friend of mine, yea I do have a few friends, built a phase converter to run several large wood working machines that he picked up very reasonably. I am not anywhere close to figuring that stuff out. I don't plan on a Mill or lathe in the shop. I would be dangerous! Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 28 Oct 2025 at 7:10am |
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You can't get 3-phase here without an act of congress! And probably a very large checkbook! Would love to have a Bridgeport, or similar type mill in the shop. Pretty sure it will have to have a phase convertor.
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Posted: 27 Oct 2025 at 1:51pm |
m16ty, folks, Yes I decided early in the project that 200 amp service was going to be plenty for the shop. But I did contact the electric provider to do a check on our usage. We don't run enough stuff here that we need 400 amp or three phase. Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 26 Oct 2025 at 11:35am |
 Sugarmaker wrote:
Jay, Great suggestions. I will find out about the 400 amp service. A neighbor did that in his new garage a couple years ago. My current 200 amp service in the house is full. Makes sense to at least get costs. Book is good idea too!  Regards,  Chris |
400 amp service is insanely expensive in my area. Unless you will have several people working and doing stuff inside the shop at once I think it’s probably overkill. I’ve never had an issue with 200 amps, and that’s even when I had a big transformer tig welder that pulled 100 amps by itself. I’ve got welders, lathe, mill, large air compressor, and other things, but it’s usually just me and maybe one more guy working in the shop at once. Me and one more just can’t use that much electricity at one time. 3 phase would be nice if it’s available and affordable in your area. That would really open up your options on buying some electrical machines and you wouldn’t have to fool with phase converters or VFDs.
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Posted: 19 Oct 2025 at 8:23pm |
John , folks, Yes Duke likes to play keep away most of the return trips with a tennis ball. we had many family members here to meet him and kids played with him. He even had a dog come to the party . He is sleeping and never made a sound in his kennel. Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 18 Oct 2025 at 2:06pm |
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Yes, you have a cute puppy, and looks very content.
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Posted: 17 Oct 2025 at 8:12pm |
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Cute pup! Can you get him to bring the ball back to you yet? Our golden only ever cared to play keep away even when he was 11 years old.
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Posted: 17 Oct 2025 at 6:41pm |
Folks, With the Allis CA three year project completed, and more recently the body work on our 2015 Ford F250 the shop is pretty empty! I just got the truck undercoated with POR material I think is the name of it. Trying to keep it going a couple more years. Just too pricey! Might be $80K to replace it right now and wont get any cheaper.
I may move the Comet over to the house garage for winter with a cover. Then put the 32 dump truck back in the shop? Our paths have crossed with a new pup. Yes another Golden this time a male. His name is Duke. We have had him for a couple days and he is doing very well! He is about 4 months old so past the real cute puppy stage. More like the angle stage. Kennel training him, and he does pretty well for a pup. All four Great grandsons were up to play with Duke for a couple hours after school. He will sleep well tonight. 
I ordered the hemlock lumber for the sliding doors in the shop. Do I need them really bad? No! But it is a project that I had designed as a feature in the shop. These 6 foot wide sliding doors would separate the low bay and high bay areas of the shop. The floor heat is the same in both those rooms so no real savings there. But maybe from a dust and dirt movement it might work? Also if we needed to live in the shop for a while? So these will be constructed on a hemlock frame made of 1 x 8 wide lumber. The joints will be reinforced with thin sheet steel screwed in place. The frame will be covered the same as the inside of the building with hemlock lumber on both sides of the upper portions, and white steel and trim on the bottom. The Amish saw mill called today and the fresh lumber has been milled to my specs. and ready for pick up next week. It will need to be sticker-ed and dried for several months. I do have the rollers and the track in place. Sounds like a spring project for me and the pup.
The lift in the shop helped friend John change the oil in his 42 ford last week. It was good to have my big truck up in the air to do cab corner and rear fender work too.
I still have areas in the shop to clean and improve storage also. I have off loaded a bunch of stuff to the tractor shop too. Not sure how I have accumulated all this stuff since retiring 11 years ago?
I took the leaking hydraulic lift cylinder from the D14 loader to a local shop for repair. He had to slightly machine the rod to accept a new wiper. ( could not get the original ) then he put in the four packing pieces. Have to get that pressurized and bleed the air out. That is just another thing to get ready for the winter. That D14 really works well for plowing snow!
Sorry for the long post. Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 12 Sep 2025 at 8:06pm |
DMiller, Folks, Thanks! The shop has helped me get some retirement projects completed. And I hope some things I did provide some ideas for folks to make improvements to our work areas too. Some days we just live out there. Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 04 Sep 2025 at 3:06am |
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Really need to expand on inside storage here, keep my own toys warm and dry, less sun baking.
You are a inspiration!!
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Posted: 03 Sep 2025 at 8:33pm |
Allis guys, Its been a while for a update on this thread. Some of the things we have done in the shop. This place has been a real good thing for Cheryl and I to spend time in a warm comfortable kitchen that I can step into a adjoining warm shop area and do some work on my many toys. The work area has been used to help with projects like replace the rear springs on the Comet twice. Replace rear springs on Johns 48 Ford. get started on the Allis CA and complete it (almost ) recently. We added a full size used fridge to the kitchen. Very nice addition! Hosted our 22nd annual Maple weekend (Taste and Tour) in mid March. Set up a temp paint booth inside the building for the CA parts. Used the Jib crane to assist in the assembly of the CA also. We hosted several dinners for our Antique AACA car club with 30 folks attending. Our son Adam and his girlfriend have visited several times and the loft has worked very well for them to relax.
Our grandson has been finishing details in his shop, large portion is his business building and office, man cave and young folks hang out. Plus motorcycle shop for his boys too! Very nice! He has also taken his Allis WD home. Gives me a little more room in the mini tractor storage area too.
Weather is getting cooler and the shop floor will be kicking in its heat in a few weeks!
Hope things are good in Orange Land! Regards, Chris and Cheryl
Edited by Sugarmaker - 03 Sep 2025 at 8:39pm
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Posted: 01 Dec 2024 at 7:22pm |
Allis folks, The old brain still thinks I am young and can do things! On the way to the house to check on Cheryl I saw a couple deer grazing in the bean field in back of our house. Hunting mode kicked in and I dug out the 30.06 and a couple shells. Walked out behind the house and found a good rest in a ash tree. Humm? Touched one off, holding 6 inches above its back. Saw a deer run in the woods and one continued to eat. Went and got some hunting boots and clothes and trudged back there. I got within 100 yards and finally the grazing deer bounded away. Expecting to track a doe into the woods. I was surprised to see a ear sticking out of the snow. As a lot of you know that's when the work starts! So a tag is filled and the meat will go to my Grandson Mike who has been helping me work on my F250. Our Great Grandson Rhett got a real nice doe last night. He was so happy. He did a really good job. Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 01 Dec 2024 at 6:09am |
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Looks like a very comfortable space indeed!
It's cold enough here but no snow. Tho we've seen some flurries.
The forklift i got a while back will also need an antifreeze service since it now sits in a cold storage room. Yesterday I wanted to use it but it refused to fire. Got spark,no start. Only difference between yesterday and 4 days ago is a 20 degree temperature drop
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Posted: 01 Dec 2024 at 12:32am |
Allis folks, Weather has turned to winter mode in our area. Checked all the tractors and the WD45 needed upgrade in antifreeze, others were all good. The D14 was called on to push snow today. About 2 feet of white stuff, sometimes called pretty by some Allis folks, needed to be shoved this way and that! I was proud of the D14 with its high lift, snow plow and bull chains.
Ruby had fun too.
After the drive was cleared I had the 32 out, just to move it out of the lift bay.
Shop is a comfortable 66 F with the kitchen at 68 for Cheryl and I to sit and drink tea and watch TV. Temps outside are around 25 F. Enjoying the radiant heat system in the shop floor! We had Thanksgiving in the shop for the first time. About 20 family members enjoyed eating and visiting. The kids loved it! We have much to be thankful for! Cheryl and I are now the old folks, not sure how that happened so quickly? Our newest Great granddaughter Cassie was very comfortable in her seat on the floor.
Regards, Chris and Cheryl
Edited by Sugarmaker - 01 Dec 2024 at 12:42am
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Posted: 25 Nov 2024 at 8:11pm |
Steve, folks, The rear garage overhead will be where the bikes, four wheelers, and side by side will go in and out most of the time. Nic has four boys between 12 and 6! The corner concrete will be a separate pour from the floor. The undercover area will be to sit out of the sun in the evening. Morning coffee there too. Nice place to sight in the guns or bows, into the back yard. Or watch the boys on the dirt track or at the pond in the back field too. Might have a cold frosty adult beverage from there too?
Siding is coming along nicely. I helped a couple hours this weekend. Things like holding the dumb end of the tape or picking up the job site.
Regards, Chris and Cheryl
Edited by Sugarmaker - 25 Nov 2024 at 8:15pm
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Posted: 23 Nov 2024 at 7:43pm |
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Chris, what is the point of the recessed garage door ? .... Just need an entrance porch / out of the weather ?
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Posted: 23 Nov 2024 at 7:23pm |
Tom, Folks, I think he is going to stud the inside walls and put vertical batting in them. He plans to have blow in insulation above the steel ceiling. Have been trying to talk him into pex in the floor but he is dead set against it. Boy Cheryl and I are really enjoying the warmth in our shop! Worked with his building crew to put up some steel on the west wall. Rain and wind and mud today!
Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 22 Nov 2024 at 8:17pm |
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I agree with Brian, spray foam it for insulation. It makes the building tighter.
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Posted: 22 Nov 2024 at 8:35am |
Guys, I am hoping his WD tractor will go down there. That may leave some room for the CA if it ever gets done. They have the roof on. Now the walls. Regards, Chris and Cheryl
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Posted: 20 Nov 2024 at 1:21pm |
Hey Chris, Looks like a lot of empty space in there. You could offer to help fill it up with some of your projects. Good looking shop.
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