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    Posted: 27 Jun 2020 at 8:10am
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/russian-spy-unit-paid-taliban-to-attack-americans-u-s-intelligence-says-11593214584

“ WASHINGTON—A Russian spy unit paid members of Afghanistan’s Taliban movement to conduct lethal attacks on U.S. troops in that country, according to a classified American intelligence assessment, people familiar with the report said.

The assessment of the role played by Russia’s military intelligence agency, the GRU, in fostering attacks on American soldiers, comes as President Trump is pushing the Pentagon to withdraw a significant portion of U.S. forces from Afghanistan and as U.S. diplomats try to forge a peace accord involving the Taliban and the U.S.-backed Afghan government.
The intelligence assessment regarding Russia’s actions in Afghanistan was delivered to the White House earlier this spring, and until recently had been known only to a handful of officials, a person familiar with it said. Its contents were reported earlier Friday by the New York Times.

It couldn’t be determined whether Russian bounties paid to Taliban fighters resulted in any American combat deaths in Afghanistan.

The White House, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Pentagon declined to comment. Russia’s Embassy in Washington didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.“
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YEP............ The bummer SCREWED THE POOCH on this one !!
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“ YEP............ The bummer SCREWED THE POOCH on this one !!”

Obama would not have ignored the reports. Nothing but crickets from Trump.

You didn’t realize this did not happen when Obama was President?
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The bum ENABLED ISIS.... the JV team...  I guess he thought the TALIBAN was their Swim Team ?
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“ YEP............ The bummer SCREWED THE POOCH on this one !!”

Obama would not have ignored the reports. Nothing but crickets from Trump.

You didn’t realize this did not happen when Obama was President?


Just read the damn thing, no proof any of it happened.
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Oneway-down-hill , can't connect the dots... ISIS WAS ISEL that bummer admired so much and helped them destroy Syria and the other countries they invaded... but TRUMP GOT RID OF THEM in no time at all! POOF, bummer out, terrorists gone.
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Originally posted by Tranny Tranny wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/russian-spy-unit-paid-taliban-to-attack-americans-u-s-intelligence-says-11593214584

“ WASHINGTON—A Russian spy unit paid members of Afghanistan’s Taliban movement to conduct lethal attacks on U.S. troops in that country, according to a classified American intelligence assessment, people familiar with the report said.

The assessment of the role played by Russia’s military intelligence agency, the GRU, in fostering attacks on American soldiers, comes as President Trump is pushing the Pentagon to withdraw a significant portion of U.S. forces from Afghanistan and as U.S. diplomats try to forge a peace accord involving the Taliban and the U.S.-backed Afghan government.
The intelligence assessment regarding Russia’s actions in Afghanistan was delivered to the White House earlier this spring, and until recently had been known only to a handful of officials, a person familiar with it said. Its contents were reported earlier Friday by the New York Times.

It couldn’t be determined whether Russian bounties paid to Taliban fighters resulted in any American combat deaths in Afghanistan.

The White House, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Pentagon declined to comment. Russia’s Embassy in Washington didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.“

If the Russians really want dead soldiers, just look in shrillery's trash!Wink


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remember when Obama told the Russians wait till he got re elected so he would have more power. by the way trammy do you support BLM.
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From the Associated Press:

“ Top officials in the White House were aware in early 2019 of classified intelligence indicating Russia was secretly offering bounties to the Taliban for the deaths of Americans, a full year earlier than has been previously reported, according to U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the intelligence.

The assessment was included in at least one of President Donald Trump’s written daily intelligence briefings at the time, according to the officials. Then-national security adviser John Bolton also told colleagues at the time that he briefed Trump on the intelligence assessment in March 2019.

The White House didn’t respond to questions about Trump or other officials’ awareness of Russia’s provocations in 2019. The White House has said Trump wasn’t — and still hasn’t been — briefed on the intelligence assessments because they haven’t been fully verified. However, it’s rare for intelligence to be confirmed without a shadow of a doubt before it is presented to top officials.

Bolton declined to comment Monday when asked by the AP if he’d briefed Trump about the matter in 2019. On Sunday, he suggested to NBC that Trump was claiming ignorance of Russia’s provocations to justify his administration’s lack of response.

“He can disown everything if nobody ever told him about it,” Bolton said.

The revelations cast new doubt on the White House’s efforts to distance Trump from the Russian intelligence assessments. The AP reported Sunday that concerns about Russian bounties also were in a second written presidential daily briefing this year and that current national security adviser Robert O’Brien had discussed the matter with Trump. O’Brien denies doing that.

On Monday, O’Brien said that while the intelligence assessments regarding Russian bounties “have not been verified,” the administration has “been preparing should the situation warrant action.”

The administration’s earlier awareness of the Russian efforts raises additional questions about why Trump didn’t take punitive action against Moscow for efforts that put the lives of American service members at risk. Trump has sought throughout his time in office to improve relations with Russia and President Vladimir Putin, moving this year to try to reinstate Russia as part of a group of world leaders it had been kicked out of.

Officials said they didn’t consider the intelligence assessments in 2019 to be particularly urgent, given Russian meddling in Afghanistan isn’t a new occurrence. The officials with knowledge of Bolton’s apparent briefing for Trump said it contained no “actionable intelligence,” meaning the intelligence community didn’t have enough information to form a strategic plan or response. However, the classified assessment of Russian bounties was the sole purpose of the meeting.
The officials insisted on anonymity because they weren’t authorized to disclose the highly sensitive information.

The intelligence that surfaced in early 2019 indicated Russian operatives had become more aggressive in their desire to contract with the Taliban and members of the Haqqani Network, a militant group aligned with the Taliban in Afghanistan and designated a foreign terrorist organization in 2012 during the Obama administration.

The National Security Council and the undersecretary of defense for intelligence held meetings regarding the intelligence. The NSC didn’t respond to questions about the meetings.

Late Monday, the Pentagon issued a statement saying it was evaluating the intelligence but so far had “no corroborating evidence to validate the recent allegations.”

“Regardless, we always take the safety and security of our forces in Afghanistan — and around the world — most seriously and therefore continuously adopt measures to prevent harm from potential threats,” said Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman.

Concerns about Russian bounties flared anew this year after members of the elite Naval Special Warfare Development Group, known to the public as SEAL Team Six, raided a Taliban outpost and recovered roughly $500,000 in U.S. currency. The funds bolstered the suspicions of the American intelligence community that Russians had offered money to Taliban militants and linked associations.

The White House contends the president was unaware of this development, too.

The officials told the AP that career government officials developed potential options for the White House to respond to the Russian aggression in Afghanistan, which was first reported by The New York Times. However, the Trump administration has yet to authorize any action.

The intelligence in 2019 and 2020 surrounding Russian bounties was derived in part from debriefings of captured Taliban militants. Officials with knowledge of the matter told the AP that Taliban operatives from opposite ends of the country and from separate tribes offered similar accounts.

Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov denied Russian intelligence officers had offered payments to the Taliban in exchange for targeting U.S. and coalition forces.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called the Taliban’s chief negotiator, a spokesman for the insurgents said Tuesday, but it was unknown whether there was any mention during their conversation of allegations about Russian bounties. Pompeo pressed the insurgents to reduce violence in Afghanistan and discussed ways of advancing a U.S.-Taliban peace deal signed in February, the Taliban spokesman tweeted.

The U.S. is investigating whether Americans died because of the Russian bounties. Officials are focused on an April 2019 attack on an American convoy. Three U.S. Marines were killed after a car rigged with explosives detonated near their armored vehicles as they returned to Bagram Airfield, the largest U.S. military installation in Afghanistan.

The Defense Department identified them as Marine Staff Sgt. Christopher Slutman, 43, of Newark, Delaware; Sgt. Benjamin Hines, 31, of York, Pennsylvania; and Cpl. Robert Hendriks, 25, of Locust Valley, New York. They were infantrymen assigned to 2nd Battalion, 25th Marines, a reserve infantry unit headquartered out of Garden City, New York.

Hendriks’ father told the AP that even a rumor of Russian bounties should have been immediately addressed.

“If this was kind of swept under the carpet as to not make it a bigger issue with Russia, and one ounce of blood was spilled when they knew this, I lost all respect for this administration and everything,” Erik Hendriks said.

Three other service members and an Afghan contractor were wounded in the attack. As of April 2019, the attack was under a separate investigation, unrelated to the Russian bounties.

The officials who spoke to the AP also said they were looking closely at insider attacks from 2019 to determine if they were linked to Russian bounties.

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Associated Press writers Zeke Miller and Deb Riechmann in Washington, Deepti Hajela in New York and Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow contributed to this report.”
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They were "Aware" of rumors and rumor mill BS just as this STUPID Article. NO ONE HAD HARD EVIDENCE at that time so what is your stupid point? Arm Chair Quarterbacking STILL.
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/russian-spy-unit-paid-taliban-to-attack-americans-u-s-intelligence-says-11593214584

“ WASHINGTON—A Russian spy unit paid members of Afghanistan’s Taliban movement to conduct lethal attacks on U.S. troops in that country, according to a classified American intelligence assessment, people familiar with the report said.

The assessment of the role played by Russia’s military intelligence agency, the GRU, in fostering attacks on American soldiers, comes as President Trump is pushing the Pentagon to withdraw a significant portion of U.S. forces from Afghanistan and as U.S. diplomats try to forge a peace accord involving the Taliban and the U.S.-backed Afghan government.
The intelligence assessment regarding Russia’s actions in Afghanistan was delivered to the White House earlier this spring, and until recently had been known only to a handful of officials, a person familiar with it said. Its contents were reported earlier Friday by the New York Times.

It couldn’t be determined whether Russian bounties paid to Taliban fighters resulted in any American combat deaths in Afghanistan.

The White House, the Central Intelligence Agency and the Pentagon declined to comment. Russia’s Embassy in Washington didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.“
Debunked...... deemed not credible intel...... FAKE NEWS
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So when all else fails, go back to the well and blame the Russians?

Was it Bite Me or someone else who said......."if this is true, it's blah, blah, blah on the President".......implication being the Russians have the goods on Trumpy, so he is standing down and not retaliating. Peelousy said as much.

And what if it's not true? Who comes forward to say we were all wrong and we owe Trumpy an apology? Nobody.....which is the point. To smear with an allegation.....guilt by accusation. And in that it has already accomplished it's goal. A negative 24 hour news cycle.

And as per KT McFarland.......there is a good reason the President is NOT briefed on intelligence reports that have not been confirmed. Remember......allegation is "if this is true". So unknown and unconfirmed. But reason it's not is what if you act on something and it later proves to not be true? Like kicking in the door on a no-knock warrant and shooting up the place......only to later find out it's the wrong door. Who got in trouble?
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“ Debunked...... deemed not credible intel...... FAKE NEWS”

Hardly! In fact, more comes out each day.   And you cannot say that Trump is unaware of it NOW! Still he doesn’t do anything.
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There are SEVERAL Intelligence agencies... SOME say they have partial information of the Russian deal... SOME say they have NOTHING , can not be proven..... So the old TURDIE END RUN HAPPENED..."SOMEONE" leaks the FAKE info to the New York TImes... 5 minutes later Pissy is on the tube bad mouthing TRUMP .... MSNBC and CNN take the ball and RUN.. with NOTHING but rumors....... Same old TURDIE GAME PLAN... Make up a story, leak it to the NYTimes and EVERYONE RUNS WITH IT.............. The INTEL GROUP did not tell TRUMP about the "STORY" becasue most had no INFO or PROOF it ever happened.

And TRANNY wants TRUMP to CONDEMN RUSSIA for FAKE NEWS from the NYTIMES !!
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Gee, lets see, we gave the Afghans missiles and arms to shoot down Russian Helos. 

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Pentagon says ‘no corroborating’ evidence to stand up NYT report on Russian bounties


sorry TRANNY......... the DOD says you are full of SH*T.
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So the Turds want us to go to war with Russia based on unsubstantiated weak discredited intelligence. Nice! Seems we have been through something like that before. Hmmmmm let me give it some thought..... maybe I'll remember something about one or two previous wars........ it was something....... about some boat..... torpedo........ then again something to do with firetrucks........ hmmmmm...... can't quite remember which wars..... what happened..... ya da ya da ya da.......
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BTT, BUTT, BUTT.......... Dead from the NECK UP and Bolten BOTH AGREE !!!  KILL RUSSIA !!! ........... and you KNOW how often those two are RIGHT on foreign affairs !! LOL
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Oh how about this war........

U.K. Parliament report details how NATO's 2011 war in Libya was based on lies

British investigation: Gaddafi was not going to massacre civilians; Western bombing made Islamist extremism worse



Contained in that report.......

  • Qaddafi was not planning to massacre civilians. This myth was exaggerated by rebels and Western governments, which based their intervention on little intelligence.
  • The threat of Islamist extremists, which had a large influence in the uprising, was ignored — and the NATO bombing made this threat even worse, giving ISIS a base in North Africa.
  • France, which initiated the military intervention, was motivated by economic and political interests, not humanitarian ones.
  • The uprising — which was violent, not peaceful — would likely not have been successful were it not for foreign military intervention and aid. Foreign media outlets, particularly Qatar's Al Jazeera and Saudi Arabia's Al Arabiya, also spread unsubstantiated rumors about Qaddafi and the Libyan government.
  • The NATO bombing plunged Libya into a humanitarian disaster, killing thousands of people and displacing hundreds of thousands more, transforming Libya from the African country with the highest standard of living into a war-torn failed state.
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OBOOGERTURD loved his ISEL troops... but could not call them for what they were, ISIS... the very same terrorist militant group and he blackwashed it to fool you and the likes trannnie. 
 Yea Steve, Thumbs Up ..."sorry TRANNY......... the DOD says you are full of SH*T."
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“ Debunked...... deemed not credible intel...... FAKE NEWS”

Hardly! In fact, more comes out each day.   And you cannot say that Trump is unaware of it NOW! Still he doesn’t do anything.


How the hell do you know he is 'not doing anything'? Hummmmmm? If you cannot prove his alleged inaction, then, to use your own words STFU!
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It's a developing story, lets wait and see what happens.......nothing will surprise me.
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Does it surprise you that Iran offered a bounty on US Soldiers back in 2010? What did the Bum do????? Hmmmmm $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Didn't he have a pallet or two of currency drop shipped by air courier to some terrorists?
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YEP.......... the bummer BROS !!
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“ How the hell do you know he is 'not doing anything'? ”

Well, he did try to say that he hadn’t been briefed. So there’s that. Oh, wait; he did invite Russia to join the G7. Yeah, that’s probably the penalty for the bounties.
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“ Thomas Joscelyn, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a think tank, told the Wall Street Journal that “Moscow’s willingness to embrace the Taliban openly and publicaly dates back several years” and he would not be surprised if there is truth to the report.”
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Trammy Trammy Trammy that is NOT proof that the Intel is correct. In fact the Intel has been deemed NOT credible.
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And the story is dying in the media as UNSUSTAINABLE as to No substantiation.
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One would 'Think' just ONE TIME the Libreturds would NOT jump on the garbage scow bandwagon EVERY TIME the releases are made with NO Substantiation, but NOOO, they jump in head over heels 'Now we have a story' until it flops as they ALL Have so far.
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